LH340fan

Which FSDT cargo hub?

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Hi all, I know it may not be xmas yet, but i feel the need for more freighter in my life. I currently fly mostly pax and sometimes cargo. However, i feel like i lack one thing: a US cargo hub.

 

Now, FSDT offers a not so expensive product (actually two)

In one hand, we got KMEM, with tons of features and definetely a lot of routes with fedex. There is some pax activity with DAL too.

In the other hand, we got KSDF with the ups team.

 

Since there's no real proper md-11 or 767 in v4 i fly the 747 and 777 and eventually the ugh-like CLS dc-10.

 

What should I get??


With regards, Charly

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I have FSDT's KSDF, it's very nice, I can recommend it. I have KDFW as well, also very nice.

KMEM is obviously a huge cargo hub, but in an earlier thread I started there were quite a few users that mentioned it can be hard on performance. See the thread here for more info...

Hope this helps.

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17 minutes ago, SunDevil56 said:

I have FSDT's KSDF, it's very nice, I can recommend it. I have KDFW as well, also very nice.

KMEM is obviously a huge cargo hub, but in an earlier thread I started there were quite a few users that mentioned it can be hard on performance. See the thread here for more info...

Hope this helps.

oh, well thanks! I'll wait to get more answers about both, cuz i can't decide! 

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2 hours ago, LH340fan said:

and eventually the ugh-like CLS dc-10.

It can be made less ugh-like with some mods (FMC etc.)

If you are into non-USA cargo locations, the new FlightBeam SEQM has a pretty large cargo area, handling the largest cargo aircraft.  LatinVFR's KMIA is a big cargo airport as well.

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1 minute ago, Mace said:

It can be made less ugh-like with some mods (FMC etc.)

If you are into non-USA cargo locations, the new FlightBeam SEQM has a pretty large cargo area, handling the largest cargo aircraft.  LatinVFR's KMIA is a big cargo airport as well.

+1 on LatinVFR KMIA, I had forgotten about that one, but you are right, it's a fine scenery add on, and KMIA ranks about #5 in the rankings for US cargo hubs as I recall.

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Well you have choices, which is always great to have!!!

 

FedEx: 777, 767, 757, MD11, MD10, ATRs C208s (And still ordering 777, 767s. Some of the converted DC10s are older than I am and are being retired. FDX bought TNT and I'm not sure what they did with TNT's 737s.)

 

UPS: 747, 767, 757, A300, MD11. I'm not sure about their retiring of the MDs. I do know they are trying to get more 74s

 

In the end it's up to you! Want that 74 for cargo? Then KSDF and UPS. Want a 777, then KMEM and FDX. Neither choice is bad and you can save and have both!

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37 minutes ago, Mace said:

It can be made less ugh-like with some mods (FMC etc.)

If you are into non-USA cargo locations, the new FlightBeam SEQM has a pretty large cargo area, handling the largest cargo aircraft.  LatinVFR's KMIA is a big cargo airport as well.

actually what i meant was "single op" airport. Thing is i have great pax airports like MIA that have freighter activity so i found out it would be interesting as cargo doesn'tt work in the same "scheduled" flights as for pax

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5 hours ago, LH340fan said:

Hi all, I know it may not be xmas yet, but i feel the need for more freighter in my life. I currently fly mostly pax and sometimes cargo. However, i feel like i lack one thing: a US cargo hub.

 

Like you, I recently felt the need for some FREIGHT DOG work after buying the QW 757 with the awesome looking cargo liveries and available options with the 757 freighters.  I have both payware  KMEM and KSDF and enjoy them a lot.  As a big fan of VAs i checked a few and decided on www.upsvac.com .  As a new pilot with upsvac, I can only say they are very organized, a good choice oi ACARS software to use, and tons of activity daily.  I like them and look forward to working for them in the future.  Hope this input helps your decision !  Good luck 😎

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14 hours ago, LH340fan said:

actually what i meant was "single op" airport. Thing is i have great pax airports like MIA that have freighter activity so i found out it would be interesting as cargo doesn'tt work in the same "scheduled" flights as for pax

Well, neither KSDF or KMEM are 'single op', mind you, as both have passenger terminals that receive pax traffic. In that sense, KMEM is probably the busier of the too, and KSDF may be more up your alley. But I agree with SKEWR: It sort of depends what aircraft you'd prefer to fly more. Your 777 goes well with FedEx, and thus KMEM, while the 747 would work well with UPS and KSDF. Both airports are nice, but as was said, KMEM can be a bit hard on performance. I haven't tried turning some of the detail off through YouControl, but may do it next time I fly there, to see how it changes performance. KSDF has usually worked quite well for me as-is.

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Actually, which one do you think i'll get the most use out of, since i typically fly continental routes or overseas that are like more than 6 hours? And also which one has like the most "large" spots? I wonder because if i remember well FDX doesn't have that many 777s.

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7 hours ago, Benjamin J said:

Well, neither KSDF or KMEM are 'single op', mind you, as both have passenger terminals that receive pax traffic. In that sense, KMEM is probably the busier of the too, and KSDF may be more up your alley. But I agree with SKEWR: It sort of depends what aircraft you'd prefer to fly more. Your 777 goes well with FedEx, and thus KMEM, while the 747 would work well with UPS and KSDF. Both airports are nice, but as was said, KMEM can be a bit hard on performance. I haven't tried turning some of the detail off through YouControl, but may do it next time I fly there, to see how it changes performance. KSDF has usually worked quite well for me as-is.

I agree with Ben here, but I should point out that the PAX terminal at KSDF is very small compared to KMEM.

Obviously cargo ops are the main focus of both airports to a massive degree, but KMEM (performance issues aside) handles considerably more PAX traffic than KSDF does, and the sheer number of jetway equipped gates at KMEM reflect this.

It's a tough choice. Look at as many reviews/screenshots/videos as you can before deciding, and then make a choice based on your impressions, and your simming needs/requirements.

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FDX is buying more and more 777s and 767s. FDX flies several routes to China and I believe to STN. As I said before there was an article in cargo world (I think that was the name) that mentioned that UPS found the 747 would be profitable. Both companies are phasing out the old MDs.

 

Routes (long and short) are fairly easy to find. Unlike airlines, the cargo companies can/will use widebodies for "short flights". EWR to IND, EWR to MEM, EWR SDF EWR ATL (Only speaking of routes I've witnessed using widebody aircraft) I'm not sure what side of the "realism" fence you sit on, but almost no cargo widebody route is invalid if it originates or terminates from one of its hubs. 

 

Large spots usually depend on the scenery developer (If I'm reading your post right). You can also edit the parking space with ADE software or GSX. I know there is a parking gate map on the FSDT forum for FDX in MEM,

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4 hours ago, SunDevil56 said:

It's a tough choice. Look at as many reviews/screenshots/videos as you can before deciding, and then make a choice based on your impressions, and your simming needs/requirements.

Reviews ? Screnshots ? Videos ? Why, when all FSDT sceneries are available in Trial version, with the download always freely available ?

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On 5/15/2019 at 12:26 PM, SKEWR said:

Well you have choices, which is always great to have!!!

 

FedEx: 777, 767, 757, MD11, MD10, ATRs C208s (And still ordering 777, 767s. Some of the converted DC10s are older than I am and are being retired. FDX bought TNT and I'm not sure what they did with TNT's 737s.)

Fedex also still has quite a few A300-600's in active service.
Last time I checked, their oldest MD10/DC10 is exactly my age, almost to the day.  I wonder if that MD10 has back problems like me  :)

Another cargo hub with scenery I forgot about was PANC - Anchorage Ted Stevens.

Viracopos SBKP is another mostly-cargo airport.  It's in Brazil.  Paulo Ricardo just released this scenery for v4 not long ago.

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3 hours ago, virtuali said:

Reviews ? Screnshots ? Videos ? Why, when all FSDT sceneries are available in Trial version, with the download always freely available ?

Yes, he could do that as well, sorry, I had forgotten about that..😯

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7 hours ago, LH340fan said:

cuz i'm broke lol

Why not KDFW. They have large UPS, FedEx and other intl cargo area. I addition to lots of international cargo routes.

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First i'll thank you for helping me decide on this tough choice. I think i might go for the fedex hub as i like them a bit more and the airport seems a bit larger, but i'll need to test it first, cuz my pc aint no beast. The objective of this is to find THE cargo hub in the us that mostly does cargo but not only; is quite up to date as per modelling and works well. Owning several scenery like UUBB,OMDB,PANC and EHAM as well as ELLX of course already makes for a lot of routes, even with no md-11 in my gang to this day.

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KMEM you have 777 ops and peak times like holiday season there are 747 charters helping FedEx on some routes. FedEx flys domestically many routes in the 777, Phoenix on occasion, Seattle, Newark, Anchorage. International to destinations such as Cologne, Tokyo, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Dubai, London Stansted.

UPS and the 747 are more limited but they fly to Anchorage and Ontario mostly with International flights to Cologne and Dubai regularly.

I would pick Memphis and the variety of 777 routes will be more fun then come the holidays the end of this year you will have Atlas and other 747 operators filling in for extra lift.

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I’d say you can’t go wrong with either SDF or MEM, to me your question is whether you want to fly more UPS or Fedex.  

But as Umberto says both can be tried with a free demo so no harm in checking both out.

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Aerosoft's PANC is quite beautiful, especially coupled with the OrbX Alaska scenery.

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Thanks to all of you for the precious info you gave me on this topic. After several tests, and discovering some quarks and issues with both sceneries I could correct (dyn. lighting for KMEM for instance) I decided to finally go with KMEM. It may not be as feature-filled as KSDF with the weird conveyor system but it offers IMO more routes; specially to PANC i already have and which is BTW a nice airport and several intl airports like ZBAA or even south american hubs. FPS are fine for me, even with the PMDG T7,  which is nice to know. Let's hope we do get a "more realistic" MD-11 someday for V4 or even V5. Now I just need to wait for the money to come at the end of the month, and i'll be happy flying from and to this scenery. 

 

In fact, one flight that particularly made me choose this hub is the KATL-KMEM with the maddog x. With so few routes to KSDF as pax and a bit more from KMEM with delta it should be considered.

 

quick review pros/cons of kmem

PROS:

-nice mesh

-nice buildings and textures (not too plain but not cartoony)

-a well done gsx config

-good FPS (on my potato)

-a price that doesn't seem so high for scenery

-TONS of routes with Fedex

 

CONS:

-dynamic lighting issue (no ground reverb of teh lights at night) but there's a INIbuids fix for it

-lack of "ultimate" tech / no rain ground effects, no PBR or such tech

-some people seem to get bad fps, not my case though, even if when having all lights on with the maddog it does get somewhat ugh.

 

 

 

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Glad you could make a decision. Have fun! they are both nice addons anyway and you really couldn't go wrong with either. Your reasoning seems sound - as a matter of fact, I've been looking into getting the 777 for some time now, but haven't taken the plunge yet. Would be fun to fly it on cargo hauls from KMEM!

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7 hours ago, LH340fan said:

-dynamic lighting issue (no ground reverb of teh lights at night) but there's a INIbuids fix for it

What / where is this fix you mention?

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