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Hi, so recently my installation of FSX has been stuttering. What I get is an hourglass and then FSX stops very briefly and then starts again. If I pause it then I get a brief flash of my desktop and then the flight continues. Assistance would be appreciated .  I have tried everything that I have seen here  to no avail  I'm just at a total loss I don't want to have to do a complete reinstall of FSX  anybody got any out of the box ideas . Computer  Dell XPS 8900  Intel i7  quad core 3.4 gigahertz, 8GB ddr4 Ram, 3 terabyte Serial ATA Drive and the equivalent of an Nvidia 1050ti graphics with four gigabytes of DDR RAM, OS Windows 10 1903, thank you Ed

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Sorry, no out of the box answers; the tried and true ones seem to help;  Check for the latest video drivers, download and go through the AVSIM FSX Config Guide.

You might also try running ProcessExplorer while flying to see if something is spiking your CPU or exhausting your GPU VRAM.

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8 hours ago, Ed Kammerman said:

I don't want to have to do a complete reinstall of FSX  anybody got any out of the box ideas

More info first. What are the most recent modifications you made to FSX?  Do you keep a log?  Can you undo or remove the most recent mods, one at a time?

What flight is FSX loading when you first start it?  What airport is loaded by that flight?  Is it a default airport, or is it an add-on airport?  What aircraft is loaded with that flight? Same questions, default or add-on?  

Did you ever make backup copy of your FSX.cfg file when FSX was operation smoothly?  Have you reverted to the saved backup?  If not, or if unable (don't have a good backup), have you deleted your FSX.cfg file to force FSX to rebuild it? 

What sceneries do you have loaded, especially 3rd party large airports and photoreal sceneries?  Then where are you flying when experiencing the stutters? 

What aircraft are you flying when this happens?  What add-ons or modifications have been applied to the aircraft?  Gauges, panel.cfg mods, repaints, etc.

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8 hours ago, Ed Kammerman said:

I have tried everything that I have seen here  to no avail

Sorry, but this tells anyone that wants to help absolutely nothing.  Without knowing more about the problem (is it random, happening periodically, only in certain places or phases of flight etc) and what you've already tried, we're left to guess.

 

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Hi all,

  Thanks for your recommendations and suggestions.....however for me it's just too complicated and time consuming to go through all these processes, I am going through the FSX .config manual and rebuilding my FSX .config file.. However I'm not going to write a 25 page dissertation on what I've done (LOL). I've backed up and rebuilt the FSX .config file several times, played with frame rates (usually keeping to 30 fps). Scenery settings between ultra high and high, basic scenery addons are Free mesh, FSC2010 and FSX nav updates. A fair amount of airports (asstd. developers) and several 3rd party aircraft (primarily PMDG) weather AS2016. My PC specs are in the original post, which are quite sufficient in my opinion

P>S Steve's DX10 Scenery Fixer

 

Ed.

 

 

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I remember stuttering in P3D and it turned out to be an outdated FSUIPC.  You should rename the dll.xml to dll.off and make sure it is not one of your utilities causing this issue.  Renaming the fsx.cfg usually fixes many things but see you have tried that.  I would also try renaming the scenery.cfg to scenery.off and let the scenery.cfg rebuild to the default and see if this fixes the problem.  If it does fix the problem, then you will have to find the offending scenery but I would look first at the scenery you installed recently.  If not, just remove the .off from the one you renamed and you'll be back.  Problems like this are usually caused by the fsx.cfg, the scenery.cfg, or a utility in the dll.xml.

 

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Hi Jim,

   So I did as you suggested, after rebuilding the scenery.onfig  file and reloading FSX today I noticed the issue was still occurring. I happened to look up at the title bar and realized the that whenever the sim paused especially for more than a second and the hourglass appeared on the title bar it said not responding. Do you know if there's any specific program that might cause this ? Like weather, live traffic GSX etc.

 

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It sounds like it is trying to load a scenery, an aircraft gauge or sound, weather, or something and cannot find it.  If you rebuilt the scenery.cfg and the error is still happening, did you rename the dll.xml to dll.off to make sure it is not one of the utilities that load at startup.  Maybe you uninstalled something like an aircraft and it did not uninstall everything so the aircraft is trying to load and cannot as some of the files were uninstalled.  Once, in FSX, I had an AI aircraft shutting down my simulator at the same spot every time.  It took me a couple of months to find out it was an AI aircraft.  It evidently had bad textures.  Did you run the diagnostics program in Steve's DX10 Fixer.  Maybe something there is not installed correctly.  Also, make sure you are starting FSX in Administrative Mode and that you have set your compatibility settings show compatibility with All Users and not just you.  When some software addon is installed, it may have a user that was not allowed to run in Admin Mode.  These could be system users too.

You can easily determine if weather or live traffic is the culprit by renaming the dll.xml.  Those programs will not load.  For FSDT, you need to only disable the FSDT scenery in the scenery.cfg.

Check your Event Viewer to make sure there are not errors pertaining to FSX are there.  See page 8 in the AVSIM CTD Guide.

Can you let us know the scenario you are running when this happens.  What is the departure airport, the aircraft, the weather program, etc?  Are they payware or the default?  Maybe I can try to replicate.

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FSUIPC auto-save will do this, especially on machines with old-timey spinning HDDs without write caching enabled.

 

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Hi Jim, so I tried what you suggested and things seem to be running a lot smoother the only problem is I lost all my things like GSX and the co-pilot program that provides me with time adjustments and things like that. It kept my ultimate live traffic so that doesn't seem to be the issue. I love to keep the smoothness but keep GSX and things of that nature. Flight is from KBOI to KLAX. Aircraft pmdg 737 800 weather is as2016. KBOI is updated with freeware add-on and KLAX is fsdt.

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Ed,

I suspect you renamed the dll.xml and your stuttering stopped but now your GSX entry is gone as you now are only loading the default dll.xml?  On page 13/14, AVSIM CTD Guide, it shows you via an image on how to manually disable only the modules you do not want loaded.  If you do not want to load the FSUIPC, then you would change a line from false to true and the FSUIPC will not load.

In regards to the FSUIPC, Bob Scott's suggestion about the FSUIPC auto-save function is probably the best solution in regards to stuttering.  As I recall now, this is how I fixed my stuttering in P3D using Washington X (I did not try with FSX as I rarely load heavy programs like DD's WashX.

Best regards,

Jim

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Jim, I had already cancelled auto save in FSUIPC prior to these recent posts from me.  The stuttering had continued.  What's odd after renaming dll.xml file and reloading  FSX I can't seem to locate the new dll.xml file, I know the location where it should be, but it's not there.

 

Ed

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In P3D there are two dll.xml files (and two exe.xml files as well).  One is in C:\Users\...\AppData\Roaming\Lockheed Martin...... and the other in C:\ProgramData\Lockheed Martin...

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Thanks but remember I'm dealing with FSX not p 3D the file we're talking about is under my username, app data, roaming, Microsoft, FSX. The odd thing is since I've rebuilt the file I can't find it. Which to me is very odd

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When it is rebuilt, it will be located in the same folder as your FSX.cfg.  You should see just "dll" depending on how you have Windows Explorer configured.  A lot of times, addon developers make backups of the dll.xml so that they can return to your old configuration if you uninstall the addon. 

I told you to rename the dll.xml to dll.off so that file should be there too.  Just remove the "off" after deleting the new dll.xml. Then you should be able to edit it.  If you do not have the old dll.xml, you can reinstall (repair) an addon and the program will add the entries in the dll.xml you rebuilt.

The most important thing to remember with CTD's with FSX is the fact it was most likely caused by an add-on.  Only time you will have an issue with FSX is when you mess with the fsx.cfg.  Developers add things to the dll.xml and the modules they install may be missing or corrupted.  This is why I suggest rebuilding the fsx.cfg too if you have a crash (but I see you have already done that).  I have not seen too many crashes caused by the scenery.cfg but it could have issues too when addons are installed.  One other issue could be the SimConnect module if a product is not installed properly.  HiFi does an excellent job making sure Active Sky is connected properly. 

On 9/29/2019 at 5:02 PM, Ed Kammerman said:

Scenery settings between ultra high and high, basic scenery addons are Free mesh, FSC2010 and FSX nav updates. A fair amount of airports (asstd. developers) and several 3rd party aircraft (primarily PMDG) weather AS2016. My PC specs are in the original post, which are quite sufficient in my opinion

I see there was an update to FSC2010 in August.  Hope you installed it.  You shouldn't have any problems with airports developed by third party developers (I assume they are freeware).  Freeware aircraft for FSX may have texture issues and if they are not compatible with FSX, they can cause a crash.  The AVSIM Library has a lot of freeware made for FS9 and earlier and much of it is not compatible with FSX.  That's why we hope developers who submitted files to the Library years ago update their products for FSX (and P3D) compatibility.  It appears your issues are with an add-on and you need to find the culprit.  A clue is the fact your sim works since you rebuilt the dll.xml and returned it to the default config. 

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Jim, after renaming the dll XML file and restarting FSX as I said I could not locate the new. Dll XML file, it was not where it should be. And you're correct there's a lot of older files from installations of updates and new programs, but no clean copy of the. Dll. XML file. What I'm considering doing is backing up the current one which is the one you originally had me basically turn off and relocating it to another location on my hard drive. Then what I'm going to do is create a whole new one and cleaning out everything else  pertaining to that file and see if that shows up. I can always copy and paste to the new one entries from the old one one at a time and see how that work. I have notepad plus plus so that should work.

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Jim, after renaming the dll.XML file, and restarting FSX  I could not locate the new Dll.XML file. It was not where it should be. And you're correct, there's a lot of older files from installations of updates and new programs, but no clean copy of the Dll.XML file. What I'm considering doing is backing up the current one which is the one you originally had me basically turn off and relocating it to another place on my hard drive. Then what I'm going to do is delete all the older dll.xml files. Then load FSX and hopefully it will create a clean dll.xml file that I can find. What I plan to do, since I have Notepad++, is copy and paste or manually enter entries from the old one to the new one, one at a time and see how that works. I will let you know. If you have any suggestions, please let me know.

 

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8 hours ago, Ed Kammerman said:

I can always copy and paste to the new one entries from the old one one at a time and see how that work. I have notepad plus plus so that should work.

I recently had to rebuild my dll.xml and that's exactly what I did but think it is easier to simply reinstall the programs that have entries in the dll.xml.

 

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