September 29, 20196 yr Hi, so recently my installation of FSX has been stuttering. What I get is an hourglass and then FSX stops very briefly and then starts again. If I pause it then I get a brief flash of my desktop and then the flight continues. Assistance would be appreciated . I have tried everything that I have seen here to no avail I'm just at a total loss I don't want to have to do a complete reinstall of FSX anybody got any out of the box ideas . Computer Dell XPS 8900 Intel i7 quad core 3.4 gigahertz, 8GB ddr4 Ram, 3 terabyte Serial ATA Drive and the equivalent of an Nvidia 1050ti graphics with four gigabytes of DDR RAM, OS Windows 10 1903, thank you Ed Edited September 29, 20196 yr by Ed Kammerman Added additional info
September 29, 20196 yr Sorry, no out of the box answers; the tried and true ones seem to help; Check for the latest video drivers, download and go through the AVSIM FSX Config Guide. You might also try running ProcessExplorer while flying to see if something is spiking your CPU or exhausting your GPU VRAM.
September 29, 20196 yr 8 hours ago, Ed Kammerman said: I don't want to have to do a complete reinstall of FSX anybody got any out of the box ideas More info first. What are the most recent modifications you made to FSX? Do you keep a log? Can you undo or remove the most recent mods, one at a time? What flight is FSX loading when you first start it? What airport is loaded by that flight? Is it a default airport, or is it an add-on airport? What aircraft is loaded with that flight? Same questions, default or add-on? Did you ever make backup copy of your FSX.cfg file when FSX was operation smoothly? Have you reverted to the saved backup? If not, or if unable (don't have a good backup), have you deleted your FSX.cfg file to force FSX to rebuild it? What sceneries do you have loaded, especially 3rd party large airports and photoreal sceneries? Then where are you flying when experiencing the stutters? What aircraft are you flying when this happens? What add-ons or modifications have been applied to the aircraft? Gauges, panel.cfg mods, repaints, etc. Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
September 29, 20196 yr 8 hours ago, Ed Kammerman said: I have tried everything that I have seen here to no avail Sorry, but this tells anyone that wants to help absolutely nothing. Without knowing more about the problem (is it random, happening periodically, only in certain places or phases of flight etc) and what you've already tried, we're left to guess. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
September 29, 20196 yr Author Hi all, Thanks for your recommendations and suggestions.....however for me it's just too complicated and time consuming to go through all these processes, I am going through the FSX .config manual and rebuilding my FSX .config file.. However I'm not going to write a 25 page dissertation on what I've done (LOL). I've backed up and rebuilt the FSX .config file several times, played with frame rates (usually keeping to 30 fps). Scenery settings between ultra high and high, basic scenery addons are Free mesh, FSC2010 and FSX nav updates. A fair amount of airports (asstd. developers) and several 3rd party aircraft (primarily PMDG) weather AS2016. My PC specs are in the original post, which are quite sufficient in my opinion P>S Steve's DX10 Scenery Fixer Ed. Edited September 29, 20196 yr by Ed Kammerman Addition to post
September 29, 20196 yr I remember stuttering in P3D and it turned out to be an outdated FSUIPC. You should rename the dll.xml to dll.off and make sure it is not one of your utilities causing this issue. Renaming the fsx.cfg usually fixes many things but see you have tried that. I would also try renaming the scenery.cfg to scenery.off and let the scenery.cfg rebuild to the default and see if this fixes the problem. If it does fix the problem, then you will have to find the offending scenery but I would look first at the scenery you installed recently. If not, just remove the .off from the one you renamed and you'll be back. Problems like this are usually caused by the fsx.cfg, the scenery.cfg, or a utility in the dll.xml. Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
October 3, 20196 yr Author Hi Jim, So I did as you suggested, after rebuilding the scenery.onfig file and reloading FSX today I noticed the issue was still occurring. I happened to look up at the title bar and realized the that whenever the sim paused especially for more than a second and the hourglass appeared on the title bar it said not responding. Do you know if there's any specific program that might cause this ? Like weather, live traffic GSX etc. Ed
October 3, 20196 yr It sounds like it is trying to load a scenery, an aircraft gauge or sound, weather, or something and cannot find it. If you rebuilt the scenery.cfg and the error is still happening, did you rename the dll.xml to dll.off to make sure it is not one of the utilities that load at startup. Maybe you uninstalled something like an aircraft and it did not uninstall everything so the aircraft is trying to load and cannot as some of the files were uninstalled. Once, in FSX, I had an AI aircraft shutting down my simulator at the same spot every time. It took me a couple of months to find out it was an AI aircraft. It evidently had bad textures. Did you run the diagnostics program in Steve's DX10 Fixer. Maybe something there is not installed correctly. Also, make sure you are starting FSX in Administrative Mode and that you have set your compatibility settings show compatibility with All Users and not just you. When some software addon is installed, it may have a user that was not allowed to run in Admin Mode. These could be system users too. You can easily determine if weather or live traffic is the culprit by renaming the dll.xml. Those programs will not load. For FSDT, you need to only disable the FSDT scenery in the scenery.cfg. Check your Event Viewer to make sure there are not errors pertaining to FSX are there. See page 8 in the AVSIM CTD Guide. Can you let us know the scenario you are running when this happens. What is the departure airport, the aircraft, the weather program, etc? Are they payware or the default? Maybe I can try to replicate. Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
October 3, 20196 yr FSUIPC auto-save will do this, especially on machines with old-timey spinning HDDs without write caching enabled. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
October 5, 20196 yr Author Hi Jim, so I tried what you suggested and things seem to be running a lot smoother the only problem is I lost all my things like GSX and the co-pilot program that provides me with time adjustments and things like that. It kept my ultimate live traffic so that doesn't seem to be the issue. I love to keep the smoothness but keep GSX and things of that nature. Flight is from KBOI to KLAX. Aircraft pmdg 737 800 weather is as2016. KBOI is updated with freeware add-on and KLAX is fsdt.
October 5, 20196 yr Ed, I suspect you renamed the dll.xml and your stuttering stopped but now your GSX entry is gone as you now are only loading the default dll.xml? On page 13/14, AVSIM CTD Guide, it shows you via an image on how to manually disable only the modules you do not want loaded. If you do not want to load the FSUIPC, then you would change a line from false to true and the FSUIPC will not load. In regards to the FSUIPC, Bob Scott's suggestion about the FSUIPC auto-save function is probably the best solution in regards to stuttering. As I recall now, this is how I fixed my stuttering in P3D using Washington X (I did not try with FSX as I rarely load heavy programs like DD's WashX. Best regards, Jim Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
October 5, 20196 yr Author Jim, I had already cancelled auto save in FSUIPC prior to these recent posts from me. The stuttering had continued. What's odd after renaming dll.xml file and reloading FSX I can't seem to locate the new dll.xml file, I know the location where it should be, but it's not there. Ed Edited October 5, 20196 yr by Ed Kammerman
October 6, 20196 yr In P3D there are two dll.xml files (and two exe.xml files as well). One is in C:\Users\...\AppData\Roaming\Lockheed Martin...... and the other in C:\ProgramData\Lockheed Martin... Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
October 6, 20196 yr Author Thanks but remember I'm dealing with FSX not p 3D the file we're talking about is under my username, app data, roaming, Microsoft, FSX. The odd thing is since I've rebuilt the file I can't find it. Which to me is very odd Edited October 6, 20196 yr by Ed Kammerman I love using my phone for speech to text but I hate autocorrect lol
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