November 15, 20196 yr Just got the Navigraph email. I got the Navigraph data subscription for 25 euros per year. I don't need charts as I use my real-world charts (incl. iPad)... They're consolidating charts & data, and it's going from 25 euros per year to 8.30 per month. "What’s Next? Effective today we have upgraded your FMS Data Annual subscription to a Navigraph Subscription with monthly billing. We have also prolonged your subscription with an additional 3 months. When this time is up your Navigraph Subscription will be extended one month at a time for 8.30 EUR / month excluding any VAT that your country may add. If you don’t want to continue with a Navigraph Subscription you can discontinue it at any time - either right away, or at any time later on - by logging into navigraph.com and canceling the subscription. However, we really do encourage you to try all the new features you now have access to before you decide to cancel. We think you will like it!" Edited November 15, 20196 yr by turner112 Added info from email H e l p k e e p A V S I M f l y i n g
November 15, 20196 yr If you pay annually with an automatic payment, Navigraph's full charts and data subscription is discounted to 69.99 eurogazinks a year, or EU5.83 a month. Given all the progress they've made with their tablet and web apps, and access to the new Jepp approach charts, it doesn't seem at all ridiculously priced to me. If all you want is the occasional FMS data update, you can get that from Aerosoft for about 7.50 euros a pop, or the full year for EU25.20. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
November 15, 20196 yr Author 6 minutes ago, w6kd said: If you pay annually with an automatic payment, Navigraph's full charts and data subscription is discounted to 69.99 eurogazinks a year, or EU5.83 a month. Given all the progress they've made with their tablet and web apps, and access to the new Jepp approach charts, it doesn't seem at all ridiculously priced to me. If all you want is the occasional FMS data update, you can get that from Aerosoft for about 7.50 euros a pop. Thanks - not as bad, but still unneeded. I'm not familiar with what Aerosoft offers (I'll check it out) but I need fairly up-to-date GPS data. Not sure what you mean by "occasional", but I rely on it to be fairly synced with my iPad EFB. [edit] Found it. Looks like this is going to be the way to go. FSX/FS2004/P3D V4/XPlane 11 NavDataPro - One year subscription: 13 datasets NavDataPro is an update service for navigational data for several Flight Simulator add-ons using an FMC or GPS data for their flights. The Nav Data itself is supplied by Lufthansa Systems and is used in real world aviation by more than... $29.99 * Edited November 15, 20196 yr by turner112 H e l p k e e p A V S I M f l y i n g
November 15, 20196 yr And thats the issue, with navigraph, all i want is one set to update littlenavmap, but they want you all your bank details, I just want to pay for one, but they make it inconvenient to do so. Aerosoft is good for the rest.
November 15, 20196 yr It's not that the default Navdata can't be edited or amended, but it's take access to real world source data and a bit of coordinated continuous community effort... 7950X3D + 7900 XT + 64 GB + Linux | 4800H + RTX2060 + 32 GB + Linux My add-ons from my FS9/FSX days
November 18, 20196 yr Yes ridiculous pricing since you can use skyvector and many other sources for free that cover all the charts for the USA. I use also FltPlanGo for Canada and Chartfox for Europe, all free. All I need is the Airac cycle.
November 19, 20196 yr Author Good news, I think:https://forum.navigraph.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8473&p=36221#p36221 H e l p k e e p A V S I M f l y i n g
November 19, 20196 yr Commercial Member can you quote it please as you cannot read it unless registered there. Chris Owner, Fulcrum Simulator Controls. fulcrumsim.com facebook.com/fulcrumsimulatorcontrols instagram.com/fulcrumsimulatorcontrols twitter.com/Fulcrum_SC
November 19, 20196 yr I have not received an email from Navigraph but read about it on another website. Do do user negative user feedback, they have decided not to implement this change and keep the separate products. Confirmed this by looking at the Navigraph subscription page. Mike
November 19, 20196 yr Commercial Member Thanks for that. Funnily enough I have just read it on fselite. Owner, Fulcrum Simulator Controls. fulcrumsim.com facebook.com/fulcrumsimulatorcontrols instagram.com/fulcrumsimulatorcontrols twitter.com/Fulcrum_SC
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