2 hours ago, Doug47 said:

That's what everybody said when they moved from FS9 to FSX too. Which was an all time biggest fallacy. 

Agree.  It's a fact that v5 provides better frame rates than v4.5 under identical loads, but the dirty little secret is that unless the frame rate is above, say 12 or so, minimum, the resulting stutters will be a major buzzkill.  I see that routinely in v4.5 with my current rig.

I have my v5 frame rate limited to 30, and I get at least 25 even over heavy scenery.  Much of the time, it stays at 30, with sliders most of the way to the right.  And that's with 3 monitors, all of them with native resolutions of 3840 X 2160, using Viewgroups.  That's moving a lot of pixels, and v5 is performing pretty well in that department, IMO.

Edited April 26, 20206 yr by Nobody2020

23 minutes ago, Nobody2020 said:

I have my v5 frame rate limited to 30, and I get at least 25 even over heavy scenery. a lot of the time, it stays at 30, with sliders most of the way to the right.  And that's with 3 monitors, all of them with native resolutions of 3840 X 2160, using Viewgroups.  That's moving a lot of pixels, and v5 is performing pretty well in that department, IMO.

I am looking at going to three monitors of the same resolution as similar to your setup. At the moment I have 1 at 3440 X 1440 and two at 1920 X 1200. I will probably go for 3 at 3440 X 1440. Can you share your system specs please. I have used Viewgroups in the past but with P3Dv5  I have just stretched the screen across all three screens and it seems to work well. Thank you.

Rick

36 minutes ago, Nobody2020 said:

...but the dirty little secret is that unless the frame rate is above, say 12 or so, minimum, the resulting stutters will be a major buzzkill. 

Ouch, you mean a frame rate of 13-24 is acceptable?  That's something I can't relate to even on my 6.6y/o former sys.

8 minutes ago, paddler said:

I am looking at going to three monitors of the same resolution as similar to your setup. At the moment I have 1 at 3440 X 1440 and two at 1920 X 1200. I will probably go for 3 at 3440 X 1440. Can you share your system specs please. I have used Viewgroups in the past but with P3Dv5  I have just stretched the screen across all three screens and it seems to work well. Thank you.

Rick

Yeah, I think Viewgroups expects all the monitors to be at the same resolution.

But sure, my current system is based on an MSI X299 mobo running a liquid-cooled Intel Core i9-7920X 12 core processor OC to 4Ghz, 16GB  XML-OC'ed Corsair Ram, and one PNY RTX 2808 ti video card.  All 3 monitors are 28" Samsung – SM-U28E850D at 3840 X 2160 resolution I mentioned earlier.

I found the .xml code for them posted in one of the forums by an LM employee, who was demonstrating samples of several kinds of Viewgroups that can be used.  I copied/pasted it into the existing viewgroups.xml file in P3D.  They don't produce the same result; each has it's own strengths and weaknesses.  I find that one is better for ground ops, taxiing, take off, parking, etc, and another is best for flying.  I keep all 3 monitors full screen except for times I need to access the Windows task bar to activate 3rd party apps, SpadNext, etc. 

Hope this is helpful.

48 minutes ago, Noel said:

Ouch, you mean a frame rate of 13-24 is acceptable?  That's something I can't relate to even on my 6.6y/o former sys.

I thought someone might challenge that.  We all have our personal "minimums".  That frame rate is where things start to go off the rails FOR ME.  At 13 fps, I can still FLY the airplane and maintain some semblance of control (and enjoyment).  Below that, it starts to fall apart FOR ME.

As an aside, it's worth noting that my frame of reference, no pun intended, is for three 4K monitors.  With only one monitor, I saw better frame rates that that even in v4.5, and now in v5, I see 60+ fps with just one monitor, all sliders at max.  But I have 3 monitors, so single monitor numbers don't mean much to me.

But do I want my sim fps to be that slow?  Heck no, and that's why I have my frame rate set to 30 in v5 now.  30's more than enough for smooth flying, and I laugh when I see people bragging about their 50-60-70-yada-yada frame rates.  Letting it get that high uses system resources that could be better used in other ways, and it's totally unnecessary.

Edited April 26, 20206 yr by Nobody2020

As long as you're happy with it that's all that matters and of course you're correct to think someone might challenge that because as you knew it is an exceedingly unpopular position to take.  

You cant a jet with anything less than ballpark 30FPS in my experience.

Edited April 27, 20206 yr by Boomer

2 minutes ago, Noel said:

As long as you're happy with it that's all that matters and of course you're correct to think someone might challenge that because as you knew it is an exceedingly unpopular position to take.  

I stated my personal confort zone.  You people challenge it.   That's bizarre.  Who ARE you people, and what gives you any right to challenge my preferences?  JEEZ...give me a break.

You post your preferences, you takes your chances.  Chill, bro, its all good sport.

45 minutes ago, Boomer said:

You post your preferences, you takes your chances.  Chill, bro, its all good sport.

I don't see it that way, "bro".  "Chances" with WHAT, exactly?  You're saying I'm walking on eggs here, just expressing what I like and don't?  ARE YOU SERIOUS, "bro"?  W      T      F      Over???

We all have our personal preferences, and that's how it is in the world, not just in a simulator forum.  Wherever I go, I expect to be respected as an individual, with the personna, the preferences...all that stuff that comes with being an individual.  I think you expect the same from others.

Then, I come here, and post what I find acceptable, and you people are all over me for it.  What, about the internet mentality, makes you think you can get away with that?  It's bogus, and  I don't accept it.  It's not "sport", it's poor behavior.

Anytime, anywhere, I post what I personally like and dislike, I expect people to just accept those things.  I don't give a d a m n if they agree with me or not, they're still going to be my preferences, and I don't care if someone disagrees.  It changes nothing.  Got it?

Bottom line is, I'm not going to argue with ANYONE about what I like and don't.

Done.

Edited April 27, 20206 yr by Nobody2020

Absolutely--all of us are doing this for fun--psst...don't tell LM this I hear they might yank your license   And I don't think I was challenging anything it is just unusual is all.  We're all lucky to be able to play with this as able.

 

 

 

Not everyone is equally tactful and there are a lot of frame rate junkies around.  It's best to let the marginal stuff slide (stuff that's not a direct attack) and assume the poster didn't mean anything bad by it.

I remember getting 4 frames per second some decades ago. I could land a fixed wing aircraft at 4 fps but it took at least 6 to land a helicopter.  I'd prefer not to repeat that experience. 😄  These days 30 is ok, 40+ is better.

I saw a still frame from the new MSFS that was interesting.  The aircraft was going into a bank and we were looking over a wing, and instead of having one clean frame then the next, there were "ghosts" of the wing between the two frames.  If we can get the space between frames filled in like that everywhere, you probably could get by with 6 fps and may not even notice.

Hook

15 hours ago, Tomaz Drnovsek said:

The lack of proper real-world weather is a deal breaker for me for now. 

Opus FSI and FSGW have been updated for P3D V5. Both working well.

i never had such a great performance than V5! i think people have to upgrade their PCs now to some more `nowadays`spec, especially the GPU needs to have 8GB!

But apart from that V5 is running incredible smooth, using all ORBX stuff + PMDG 737 and i have a stable 30FPOS everywhere! it`s like a dream finally came true!

On 4/27/2020 at 3:28 AM, Saunameister said:

i never had such a great performance than V5! i think people have to upgrade their PCs now to some more `nowadays`spec, especially the GPU needs to have 8GB!  But apart from that V5 is running incredible smooth, using all ORBX stuff + PMDG 737 and i have a stable 30FPOS everywhere! it`s like a dream finally came true!

I have to agree.  I've kept v4.5 installed for all the add-on acft I don't have in v5, but I find I don't load or use it.

V5 is improved in so many ways, I find it's my flight sim "go-to".

I did upgrade my 2080 Super to a 2080 ti to get the added 3GB GPU memory because of the memory issues in v5, but I expect all that will be fixed soon.