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Weather : FS20 up to the real (lousy) world ?

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 We, the non-alpha (sounds like a scifi  novel), are mostly focused on the scenery out of necessity. I really expect more from FS20 and that includes the weather system. Active Sky has brought a considerable improvement in P3D over the years but cannot really recreate what I see in this video which came to my You Tube timeline. I know quite well this New Britain short route, done it several times, I never had that kind of complex rainy weather and to face the dilemma he faces. I hope that FS20 will be up to it.

This You Tuber  is interesting to follow as he extensively narrates what he does. On a side note I also hope that the default Caravan, the closer from his Kodiak, will come  all the documentation to select ITT, Torque etc.

Also, any comment on his Garmin from the pilots here ?

 

Dominique

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25 minutes ago, Dominique_K said:

Active Sky has brought a considerable improvement in P3D over the years but cannot really recreate what I see in this video which came to my You Tube timeline.

Doesnt that statement sum it up?  Its taken a number of years to bring considerable improvement. At the outset it was still better but had issues.  Judging from the FS20 quick videos and all the screenshots, I would say its well on the way.  But like AS, will take time to refine and get better. Not so sure we can ever depict just like the video in the RW in any sim. Its just too dynamic, complex, and in turn extremely difficult to process without impacting the rest of the sim. 

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I really hope you're right! The video was awesome!

If MSFS is even 50% as close to what is shown in the video then our respective flights will be very interesting! I can't wait! 🙂

P.s. I do like the 'the non-alpha' 's 🙂

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Indeed it would be interesting to encounter situations like that authentically depicted in MSFS.

And I'd like to fly in those authentic conditions any time I want and as often as I want, without being restricted to live weather (or manually created weather). So (and for a lot of other reasons) I'd like to have historic weather.

This was mentioned in this forum several times before but unfortunately still no word on it by Asobo (as far as I am aware).

Meteoblue offers historic data on its website so I don't see a reason why it shouldn't be in the sim.

But Asobo so far only talked about live weather.

 

Today we'll get to know more about meteoblue (weather), there will be a partnership series about meteoblue today.

5 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

 

This You Tuber  is interesting to follow as he extensively narrates what he does.

Nice comments indeed: it gives a good idea of his decision-making process along with his workload management.

5 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

 

This You Tuber  is interesting to follow as he extensively narrates what he does. On a side note I also hope that the default Caravan, the closer from his Kodiak, will come  all the documentation to select ITT, Torque etc.

"default" and "all" (ie: complete) in the same sentence? It sounds like a very wishful thinking...

You would have a better chance checking the "Systems" section of the "Pilot Operating Handbook". You may find one here for the Caravan equipped with G1000. Garmin also provides some aircraft specific guides for their G1000: here is the one for the Caravan.

Another (serious) Youtube channel is Guido Warnecke: he flies a lot of different machines and his videos are also commented (system, ATC, IFR procedures...). I am sure that you will find some details on PT6 engine management.

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From what I saw in the MSFS video previews showing radical and variable weather conditions around the same area, there is nothing that matches its realism, intimidating aspect and complexity in this segment not in the default weather or any addon in any pc simulator already on the market today that I know about...

Will it have 100% the subtle behavior like all real world radical conditions and will we have to apply the same real world procedures and have them reflected in the aircraft systems and thus the aircraft behavior will therefore follow like it would be in the real world? Maybe not, but what I saw so far in the skies of MSFS videos, is light years ahead of any sophisticated addon for any simulator available today...

 

 

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I'm pretty sure there is historic weather because in the game when you change the weather you can also change the date 

52 minutes ago, devgrp said:

I'm pretty sure there is historic weather because in the game when you change the weather you can also change the date 

Pretty sure the Devs said there won't be Historic weather, at least not at launch.

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11 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

 We, the non-alpha (sounds like a scifi  novel), are mostly focused on the scenery out of necessity. I really expect more from FS20 and that includes the weather system. Active Sky has brought a considerable improvement in P3D over the years but cannot really recreate what I see in this video which came to my You Tube timeline. I know quite well this New Britain short route, done it several times, I never had that kind of complex rainy weather and to face the dilemma he faces. I hope that FS20 will be up to it.

This You Tuber  is interesting to follow as he extensively narrates what he does. On a side note I also hope that the default Caravan, the closer from his Kodiak, will come  all the documentation to select ITT, Torque etc.

Also, any comment on his Garmin from the pilots here ?

 

I just watched the video and I can say you will definitely experience weather like this 😉

 

20 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

 We, the non-alpha (sounds like a scifi  novel), are mostly focused on the scenery out of necessity. I really expect more from FS20 and that includes the weather system. Active Sky has brought a considerable improvement in P3D over the years but cannot really recreate what I see in this video which came to my You Tube timeline. I know quite well this New Britain short route, done it several times, I never had that kind of complex rainy weather and to face the dilemma he faces. I hope that FS20 will be up to it.

This You Tuber  is interesting to follow as he extensively narrates what he does. On a side note I also hope that the default Caravan, the closer from his Kodiak, will come  all the documentation to select ITT, Torque etc.

Also, any comment on his Garmin from the pilots here ?

 

Thank you for sharing.. ^^ Is he allowed to fly through the clouds in these very not VFR conditions? 😮

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12 hours ago, HighTowers said:

Doesnt that statement sum it up?  Its taken a number of years to bring considerable improvement. At the outset it was still better but had issues.  Judging from the FS20 quick videos and all the screenshots, I would say its well on the way.  But like AS, will take time to refine and get better. Not so sure we can ever depict just like the video in the RW in any sim. Its just too dynamic, complex, and in turn extremely difficult to process without impacting the rest of the sim. 

I've seen flight simulation gaining some much technological traction over 40 years that I am pretty optimistic that weather will be much more complex pretty soon. Very impressed by Meteoblue video. 

 

7 hours ago, GearUp180 said:

Nice comments indeed: it gives a good idea of his decision-making process along with his workload management. 

 

1 hour ago, Victoroos said:

  Is he allowed to fly through the clouds in these very not VFR conditions? 😮

I suppose he keeps in view an escape hole in the cloud cover . I was impressed by his train of thoughts.Tell about immersion if we can get that with the FS20 weather model. 

16 hours ago, GearUp180 said:

 

"default" and "all" (ie: complete) in the same sentence? It sounds like a very wishful thinking...

 

Yes, I was a tad optimistic about the "all", actually I meant the tables we see in the video (and other videos of the same pilot) Thanks for the links.

 

 

Dominique

Simming since 1981 -  [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam

 

Well you're in luck ... here yours answer 

 

12 hours ago, Victoroos said:

Is he allowed to fly through the clouds in these very not VFR conditions?

There are (and in the old days were more) a lot of bush pilots who don't necessarily get too worked up over VFR/IMC differences.

I remember reading one memoir from an Alaskan bush pilot, talking about how he'd routinely do VFR into IMC and just keep going. And his wasn't the only account I've read about pilots doing that, especially when weather is rapidly variable and the clouds that were 1500 feet above them suddenly slam down to ground level.

Regulations are great, but sometimes when you're out in the middle of nowhere and no one is watching and you know you'll get fired if you don't complete the flight, you do stupid stuff and hope your luck holds. I personally don't approve, but then I've never been a bush pilot either so I don't really have the standing to talk about it.

 

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