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Hi All

I'm on the team who made the G36 Bonanza Improvement Project. We have a forum topic in the main MSFS forums but I thought it might be a good idea to post here as well with a link to the mod; so those here in the Avism forum can give feedback and chat about the mod. All constructive feedback greatly received.

We've developed some great features and just released 0.6.6 Beta 2 in our dev channel. 

MSFS G36 Project version 0.6.6 Beta 2

This is the improvement project for the MSFS default G36. It all started as a simple edit of some configuration files but it has since grown into a fully-fledged modification that improves all aspects of the default G36 and introduces new features.

This was made possible with the help of the community consisting of both enthusiasts and G36 pilots.

  • New! Aircraft Persistence
  • Fixed: NXi Engine System Page spacing

Features:

Flight dynamics/performance

  • Adjusted climb and cruise performance to match the Bonanza G36 POH charts.
  • Adjusted flap and gear drag
  • Slightly reduced pitch effect due to elevator deflection + propwash
  • Slightly increased nosewheel steering angle
  • Added drag due to cowl flaps. This causes a 3-4 kts cruise speed loss.
  • Decreased yaw sensitivity by lowering deflection rate as a function of speed
  • Increased overall stability: less 'twitchy' feeling

Engine & Fuel system

  • Completely overhauled engine parameters: realistic fuel flow, mixture-EGT interaction, engine performance at all pressure altitudes.
  • Simulation of the electric fuel pump
  • More advanced simulation of engine startup:
  • Cold starts: correct use of the fuel pump, throttle and mixture required depending on engine and ambient temperature
  • Under some conditions, idling the engine too soon after start may cause it to quit.
  • Flooded engine: pumping too much fuel to the engine may cause it to ignite slower or not at all.
  • Flooded engine start procedure (mixture low/cut, throttle halfway) may resolve this.
  • A hot engine running idle with little airflow may quit because the fuel evaporates.

Systems

  • Added new working systems and switches:
  • Airco (has a negative effect on engine performance, you will see a few kts lower cruise speed)
  • Airco and ventilator switches are functioning and part of the electrical system
  • Annunciator test

Electrical system overhaul

  • Completely revised electrical buses: all individual systems hooked up to the correct bus
  • Bus tie logic added
  • Correct voltage indications of BUS2 due to reverse current blocking diodes
  • Correct alternator loads
  • Made all indications smooth, rather than instant jumps to a new value

Autopilot tweaks

  • Fixed holding the wrong altitude at non-standard atmospheric pressures
  • Max pitch and bank angles adjusted for smoother AP behaviour
  • Added maximum and minimum IAS_ref speeds for FLC mode
  • Adjusted autopilot PIDs

Electronics

  • Integration with the Working Title NXi mod, with customized ENGINE, LEAN and SYSTEM pages.
  • Completely redone G1000 annunciators: all annunciators of the real G36 were implemented (except for door open warnings)
  • Corrected fuel gauge scale

Textures & effects

  • Including the latest version of Uwajimaya's lighting mod (https://uwajimaya.github.io/FS2020/)
  • Corrected decals (e.g. shoulder hardness -> harness)

Checklists

  • Interactive checklists for every stage of your flight that follow the POH

ATC

  • You are now referenced as Bonanza > Your Callsign in in game ATC

SOUNDS

  • Excessive undercarriage wind noise reduced

AIRCRAFT PERSISTENCE / STATE SAVING / MAKING THE PLANE 'REAL' (WORK IN PROGRESS)

Your aircraft now remembers how you left it! States are saved per Aircraft Registration, so you can multiple 'living' Aircraft. On first flight load of the new 0.6.6, your aircraft is set cold & dark with 64 gallons of fuel. The aircraft now saves the following tank levels, switches and levers every 5 seconds. When you next climb into your aircraft you will find it just as you left it!

  • Left & Right Fuel Tank Level
  • Battery 1 & 2 switch
  • Alternator 1 & 2 Switch
  • Parking Brake lever
  • Avionics Switch
  • Airconditioning Switch
  • Blower switch
  • Vent Blower switch
  • Aux Fuel Pump Switch
  • Magneto Switch
  • Pitot Heat Switch
  • Prop De-Ice Switch
  • Strobe Switch
  • Beacon Switch
  • Nav Light Switch
  • Flood Light Switch
  • Panel Light Switch
  • Taxi Light Switch
  • Landing Light Switch
  • Fuel Selector Position
  • Defrost switch
  • Throttle Position
  • Propeller Position
  • Mixture Position
  • Cowl Flap Position
  • Flaps Switch
  • Flaps Physical Position
  • Pitch Trim Position
  • Aileron Trim Position
  • Floodlight Brightness
  • Pilot & Passenger Yoke Visibility

NOTE: The aircraft state is only loaded if:

  • You are on the ground in a parking spot or
  • You are on the ground somewhere else and your engine is off.
  • This allows the aircraft to load in flight or ready at the end of the runway without messing with the aircraft load. It WILL however, still record switch states and tank levels etc.

MISC

  • Possible fix to aircraft getting stuck on the ground. Changed nose height on gear to reflect reference pictures, increased nose gear damping affect

Installation:

1: Download and install the Working Title NXi from the store Marketplace

2: Download and unzip the folder ‘z-bonanza-g36-improvement-project’ in to your MSFS Community folder

3: Download and unzip the folder 'g36ip-hanger-module' in to your MSFS Community folder

 

FAQ's:

Q: I am not seeing the engine pages in the G1000?

*A: Make sure to install the Working Title NXi (from the Marketplace). Ensure that the old G1000 Working Title mod is no longer installed, we have moved compatabilty to the NXi available from the marketplace.

Please Note: Current version of Working Title NXi 0.7.1 does not have a working reversionary mode and the engine pages are listed on the MFD only. We believe this will change in the future.

There have also been reports of the GNS750 causing issues with the NXi / Our mod.

Q: The mod isn't working?*

A: This is usually due to a conflict with another mod in the community folder. The best thing is to remove all other mods and slowly add them to see what causes the conflict. Aircraft, gauge and lighting mods are the prime suspects.

Q: The engine won't start?

A: Since v0.6, the engine start is modelled. Fuel must be pumped to the engines, cold engines need to warm up and overuse of the fuel pump and throttle prior to engine start may cause it to flood. If you correctly follow the start procedures, the engine should almost always start on the first try, unless under extreme condtions.

Q: My engine quits after landing?

A: Fuel may evaporate in a hot engine at low speeds and idle throttle. This could occur on a very hot day when coming to a stop after landing. Use of the cowl flaps on approach and landing is advised under these conditions.

Q: My engine quits right away when starting on the runway?

A: This mod is designed for cold and dark starts. The sim initializes the CHT as equal to the ambient temperature. Furthermore, the amount of fuel pumped to the engine initializes as 0. Hence, the engine start/run conditions are not met and the engine will shut down. Follow the start-up procedure to restart the engine.

Q: The annunciator test button is stuck?

A: This happens when you left click outside the clickbox and then hover your mouse over the button and release. Do the same thing to resolve the problem.

Q: The AC Blower switch doesn't work?

A: Unfortunately there is something wrong with the animation. We have to wait for Asobo to fix this, but since this button was (inop.) by default don't hold your breath. If you click it, it does actually work. You can see it increases the electrical BUS1 load slightly.

 

How to get?

Latest Release: https://github.com/TheFrett/msfs_g36_project/releases

Latest Development Version: https://github.com/TheFrett/msfs_g36_project/tree/development

Issues, Bug Reports & Feature Requests: https://github.com/TheFrett/msfs_g36_project/issues 

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I am not finding the zip file for 0.6.6 development version.


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Hi @fppilot

On the github page you should see a code button, clicking on that will give you a drop down where you to can click download zip. (in theory)

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23 minutes ago, CaptMatto said:

code button

Found it!  Thanks!  Different than what I am accustomed to seeing.  Any idea if there is compatibility between this and the Robert Young Turbo G36?

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@fppiot

Sadly they do not play nice together; we have got a branch that used to work with Rob's turbo mod, but we've not looked at that for a while. 

We did try and make our Mod compatible with the Turbo Mod but there were some issues behind the scenes.

At the moment we are not supporting the patched version for the Turbo mod as the sim has progressed quite a lot and we are developing significant new features that make merging the two mods difficult.  

Best we can suggest is a little trial and error for the time being. 

Hopefully once we have our own base mod feature complete we'll revisit compatibility. 


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I appreciate the work involved, thanks.

Frank- why not just use @Bad_T's wonderful Addon Linker and just load the mod you intend to FLY?  I rely on it for EVERY sim session and believe it indispensable for MSFS- they ought to make it part of the GUI.

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Its a very nice mod, thank you.

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This is by far the best GA airplane payware or freeware out there today in my opinion.

 

Thanks! 

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3 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

Its a very nice mod, thank you.

 

1 minute ago, fakeflyer737 said:

This is by far the best GA airplane payware or freeware out there today in my opinion.

 

Thanks! 

Wow, thanks both!


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What's the difference between this and Rob's G36 mod?


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Just now, iFlySimX said:

What's the difference between this and Rob's G36 mod?

Rob's simulates the G36 with an aftermarket turbo modification; ours simulates the normally aspirated engine as it would come out of the factory.

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3 minutes ago, CaptMatto said:

Rob's simulates the G36 with an aftermarket turbo modification; ours simulates the normally aspirated engine as it would come out of the factory.

Thanks!


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Are the doors able to open?  Just icing on the cake I guess.

Thanks for the mod effort.

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1 minute ago, bean_sprout said:

Are the doors able to open?  Just icing on the cake I guess.

Thanks for the mod effort.

bs

Sadly no, I'd like to get there at some point but not sure when. I believe it needs a lot of blender skills and some significant 3d modelling.


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52 minutes ago, cavaricooper said:

I appreciate the work involved, thanks.

Frank- why not just use @Bad_T's wonderful Addon Linker and just load the mod you intend to FLY?  I rely on it for EVERY sim session and believe it indispensable for MSFS- they ought to make it part of the GUI.

C

I started using Addons Linker the day it was first available and am an advanced user.  What is you reason here for asking?


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