Just wondering if weather can be dangerous when ie flying into thunderstorms with a small ga airplane? Also, does icing have any tangible effects on the airplane’s behaviour?

Yes. You’ll be thrown around like a ping pong ball. 

Yes. Ice effectively changes the shape of wings in ways which reduce aerodynamic flow over wings and control surfaces, which can lead to reduced maneuverability or even stall. 

Thanks for your reply @FAZZ3  Just to confirm, you are talking about in sim, right, and not real world?

No one in beta will answer this.  Only those with actual access will know.  They're under NDA.

]ASOBO has stated that the weather affects the aircraft, including icing.

17 minutes ago, Andreas Stangenes said:

Thanks for your reply @FAZZ3  Just to confirm, you are talking about in sim, right, and not real world?

I actually meant real world. Can’t speak for the sim as I’m not in the beta, but I’d imagine it would be roughly the same. 

Yup, it does have an effect in the new sim. Airframe icing will turn your aeroplane into a flying brick and your windscreen will become obscured. The simulation of air mass movement, and in the case of a CB, turbulence, downdrafts - particularly downwind of any hills - will make things interesting, to the point where your rate of climb may not be able to counter the vertical speed of the air mass and force you into the terrain. This is one of the better things to look forward to in the new sim and for me is far more interesting a prospect than the view out of the window.

7 minutes ago, Chock said:

This is one of the better things to look forward to in the new sim and for me is far more interesting a prospect than the view out of the window.

You don't enjoy VFR flying? 😜

The weather engine is one of the things I'm looking forward the most as well. If they can iron out the flaws with the flight model = perfect!

Where do you have the info from, that icing is implemented well, if I may ask?

Edited August 1, 20205 yr by tweekz

1 minute ago, tweekz said:

You don't enjoy VFR flying? 😜

 

As an often VFR flyer, I look forward having killing CB to force upon me avoidance trajectories.  

12 minutes ago, tweekz said:

You don't enjoy VFR flying? 😜

The weather engine is one of the things I'm looking forward the most as well. If they can iron out the flaws with the flight model = perfect!

Where do you have the info from that icing is implemented well in the sim if I may ask?

Nah, I love VFR flying, but I can do that for real, not that I don't enjoy it in flight sims as well. There's nothing stopping me from renting a Cessna or some such, but thus far no airline has said to me: 'Hey Al! Do you want to borrow our Boeing 737 for the weekend?' Nor has the RAF Battle of Britain Memorial Flight offered to lend me their fleet of WW2 aeroplanes. This is one of the joys of flight sims - if you want to fly a B17 Flying Fortress, or a Super Constellation - something you'd probably never get the chance to do even if you were a millionaire, then a flight sim will let you do this. I love it.

With regard to the air mass simulation, Asobo have featured this in quite some detail in one of their presentation videos, even including diagrams showing the lines of the airflow over terrain. We can also see in quite a few videos out there on facetube etc, that icing is depicted visually on airframes and windscreens too. Visually it is a bit over the top for my tastes, airframe icing can be virtually invisible in real life and still make an aeroplane's wing completely ineffective, but this aside, the visuals of icing on the airframe are there in the new sim and so are its effects.

This means there actually is a decent reason to try out the glider which is included in the sim.

Edited August 1, 20205 yr by Chock

1 minute ago, Chock said:

With regard to the air mass simulation, Asobo have featured this in quite some detail in one of their presentation videos, even including diagrams showing the lines of the airflow over terrain. We can also see in quite a few videos out there on facetube etc, that icing is depicted visually on airframes and windscreens too. Visually it is a bit over the top for my tastes, airframe icing can be virtually invisible in real life and still make an aeroplane's wing completely ineffective, but this aside, the visuals of icing on the airframe are there in the new sim.

Yeah, but they have also shown us a XP-like flight model and now we can slam the A320 into the ground with 3000ft/min and have paperplane like behavior. I fully expect this to get fixed, but now I am a bit concerned it might not be as perfect from start with weather effects as well.

Well this is where companies such as HiFi Simulations step up to the mike and say, don't worry, we've got this.

2 minutes ago, Chock said:

Well this is where companies such as HiFi Simulations step up to the mike and say, don't worry, we've got this.

True. Let's hope they won't have much to fix. 😄

40 minutes ago, WarpD said:

No one in beta will answer this.  Only those with actual access will know.  They're under NDA.

]ASOBO has stated that the weather affects the aircraft, including icing.

The last 72 hours a lot of streamers have had their nda fulle or partially lifted (at least by the looks of it, since all the big streamers are sharing info from beta). 

57 minutes ago, WarpD said:

]ASOBO has stated that the weather affects the aircraft, including icing.

It does. Fun when you're in a Cessna not equipped with any deicing thingies and just have to get lower and hope the stuff melts off. 😁

I took this Photo some weeks ago. EMBD CB where reported from 4000ft topping out at FL280. It was quite turbulent and VSI was all over the place. Let's hope Asobo can model this accurately. That would be fantastic.

(Info: we consulted Met Office / ATC and other experienced pilots prior to departure to ensure we could fly around the worst areas)