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Want to purchase a 43” tv for my monitor for the new flight simulator.  I know it needs chroma 444 but that’s hard for me to find on specs.   Can someone give some options of brands that have it?   Thanks in advance!

Anthony Neumann

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Rob_Ainscough is the most knowledgeable source of this type of info that I know, so I would defer to him in this area.  I'd send him a Private Message but in the message ask him to reply here in this thread... as I'm sure a lot of other people have the same quest ion.

 

Best wishes!

 

 

 

Dave Hodges

 

System Specs:  I9-13900KF, NVIDIA 4070TI, Quest 3, Multiple Displays, Lots of TERRIFIC friends, 3 cats, and a wonderfully stubborn wife.

Many years ago,. like in 1981 or 1982, I purchased a Sony Profeel Monitor that with a separate tuner such as in a video recorder, and a special conversion cable, would double as a TV.  It still produced fantastic video quality until I relocated in 2010 and needed to part with it.  I flew simulator versions with it up through subLogic's Flight Assignment:ATP.  I later used it for video editing converting family camcorder tapes to DVD's. 

Not sure about going the other direction.

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17 minutes ago, DaveCT2003 said:

Rob_Ainscough is the most knowledgeable source of this type of info that I know, so I would defer to him in this area.  I'd send him a Private Message but in the message ask him to reply here in this thread... as I'm sure a lot of other people have the same quest ion.

 

Best wishes!

 

 

 

Thanks Dave!

 

 

i guess from what I have read it needs to be chroma 444.  Not sure what that is but typically the specifications don’t call this out that I can see.  
 

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Anthony Neumann

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17 minutes ago, antney79 said:

Thanks Dave!

 

 

i guess from what I have read it needs to be chroma 444.  Not sure what that is but typically the specifications don’t call this out that I can see.  
 

 

Actually, I don't think that is accurate, but let's let Rob chime in.

 

Dave Hodges

 

System Specs:  I9-13900KF, NVIDIA 4070TI, Quest 3, Multiple Displays, Lots of TERRIFIC friends, 3 cats, and a wonderfully stubborn wife.

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A TV with chroma 4:4:4 will make text appear far sharper than a TV without it. GIven you still have to perform the usual Windows tasks having a display that makes text easy to read is important.

Read this article and scroll down to the chroma 4:4:4 section for full details.

https://www.garethjmsaunders.co.uk/2018/09/26/using-a-4k-ultra-hd-tv-as-a-pc-monitor/

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Video YCbCr (e.g. HDMI) is a standard that usually uses lossy data compression (e.g. 4.2.0) which, depending on the window text of the Windows application text and background colours, on a TV can reduce sharpness of that text. Therefore some text in games may not be so affected. Sometimes available on TVs HDMI is 4.4.4 which is basically the lossless version of the data which will support sharper Windows desktop text if the TV supports it. Incidentally, HDMI cables carry complex analogue signals multiplied in phase quadrature and those signals degrade over distance and with interference around them or with poor quality cable. In those cases of degraded signals there might be less colours apparent as the signal is recreated at the receiver. A new or higher quality cable might actually show more colours even though it's 'digital'.

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How do I know if a specific tv supports chroma 444?

 

the text would be important to me since I would use this tv/monitor for work items too with this pc.  Thanks for all the info!

Anthony Neumann

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11 minutes ago, antney79 said:

How do I know if a specific tv supports chroma 444?

the text would be important to me since I would use this tv/monitor for work items too with this pc.  Thanks for all the info!

In the link I provided he lists what to look for in a few popular makes. There is no fixed wording. Each manufacturer uses their own description. It's near the end of the article.

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Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

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Thanks Ray!

Anthony Neumann

This site tests TVs. Pick a TV and scroll down to "supported resolutions". There it will tell you if the TV supports 4.4.4 Chroma and at what resolution and frequency. Before purchasing any TV I recommend downloading the manufacturer's manual to confirm the specs listed on the review site are correct.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/

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That is a very useful website thanks!

 

think I will be going with the Sony X800H at 43”.   Just think 49” is too big sitting that close to the tv.   

Anthony Neumann

1 hour ago, antney79 said:

That is a very useful website thanks!

 

think I will be going with the Sony X800H at 43”.   Just think 49” is too big sitting that close to the tv.   

I got that Sony and it works great. I first bought the 43" but exchanged it for the 49"  If you can find one and want to spend the money get the 900 series with full array back lighting.

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10 minutes ago, FreeBird(Josh) said:

I got that Sony and it works great. I first bought the 43" but exchanged it for the 49"  If you can find one and want to spend the money get the 900 series with full array back lighting.

Why did you go with the 49”?  43 wasn’t big enough?   

Anthony Neumann

2 hours ago, antney79 said:

Why did you go with the 49”?  43 wasn’t big enough?   

43 is fine but 49 is better as far as life size, and I knew in the back of my mind that I wish I bought the bigger one, so I did.  You will be happy with the 43"

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