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What the heck was going on in Alpha/Beta?

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28 minutes ago, Denwagg said:

CTD's on about 80% of the full flights I attempt. I have over 200 hours in DCS beta releases and I can count the number of Crash to desktops on one hand in the last 6 months. There are so many problems with MFS Im not sure if they can address them all. All I can say is Im terribly disappointed

Did you overclock your GPU? Try reducing it a little bit - especially the memory clock. I had the same issue where right after takeoff on 80% of flights I’d have a CTD. Reduced the OC a bit and now I haven’t had one since.

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7 hours ago, sidfadc said:

I’m scared of the drama in this thread

It's interesting to me how you (and those who gave you a thumbs-up) consider that drama.  I'm not angry, throwing a fit, or ranting because a NAV light isn't working or the sun is slightly at the wrong angle at 17:00Z while flying off the coast of Pitcairn Island or a cloud was in the wrong position while taking-off from CYSU.  

By comparison, if you order food from McD's and they put cheese on your burger when you didn't want cheese.  Or they forget to include the drink with the combo...most people ask for it to be corrected and, with enough frustration, most folks stop going back. 

Myself, I go to In-N-Out to avoid all such issues.  Why should simming be any different? 

A. Ortega

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Processor, MSI MAG B850 Tomahawk MAX WiFi Motherboard, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB SSD, Samsung 870 4TB SATA, Nvidia GeForce RTX 5090 Founders Edition Video Card, Rosewill VMG 1000W 80+ Gold Power Supply, Phanteks XT Pro Ultra Mid-Tower Gaming Chassis, Windows 11 x64 Home, 2.5gb fiber ISP. 

 
 

 

42 minutes ago, FlyingInACessna said:

Did you overclock your GPU? Try reducing it a little bit - especially the memory clock. I had the same issue where right after takeoff on 80% of flights I’d have a CTD. Reduced the OC a bit and now I haven’t had one since.

Really good point - the sim will expose any issues with hardware that is pushed beyond it's limit. Was troubleshooting the install on a friend's machine, where it kept "bluescreening" after a few minutes in the sim. Turns out he had enabled HT but hadn't stress tested to confirm stability. Upped the CPU voltage a bit and he was golden.

Absolutely one of my recommendations have been ensure your Ram timing as well.  I have 32gb of Ram and running the sim I am at about 23gb in use so the system use especially in 16gb is going to be higher and any instabilities can present themselves.  I have seen a few reports of people who have dialed back their ram overclocking has resolved a fair amount of issues.

2 hours ago, FlyingInACessna said:

Did you overclock your GPU? Try reducing it a little bit - especially the memory clock. I had the same issue where right after takeoff on 80% of flights I’d have a CTD. Reduced the OC a bit and now I haven’t had one since.

Thanks so much. Chgd bios settings to XMP II with default clock. Did not crash simulator was much smoother. Funny how I ran these settings for months in DCS without any problems. MFS must tax the system way more and exposes flaws

Denwagg

Steam MSFS 2020. Process Lasso, Acronis True Image Backup.

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Basically, I bought this as a BETA and am enjoying it for what it is currently...

 

I think it's too easy to get stressed over what needs to be fixed and when and I refuse to obsess over it!

 

I have a fairly good grasp of what is not working properly and refuse to continue to put myself in situations in this game where I have to make something broken work or I won't enjoy my flight or time spent (I.E. planning a tubeliner IFR flight, over a long distance, with accurate weather, expecting great FPS, landing at a poor Bing generated Airport/area and, expecting accurate ATC callouts and AI traffic vectoring)!

 

I'll fly this casually and give it a good six months in the oven before trying to do anything too serious with this sim, IFR/Tubeliner wise..

 

Otherwise, I might as well try pounding a nail in the wall with my forehead!

Chris Camp

24 minutes ago, Denwagg said:

Thanks so much. Chgd bios settings to XMP II with default clock. Did not crash simulator was much smoother. Funny how I ran these settings for months in DCS without any problems. MFS must tax the system way more and exposes flaws

For sure. I was shocked too. I used heaven to benchmark my OC two days before the release and it ran fine on XP11 too, but I noticed as soon as I’d take off in MSFS and the photogrammetry around me would start to load, it would freeze and then crash.

6 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

What debacle? Hundreds and thousands of gamers are flying this sim, posting videos, etc. The thing has bugs, yes, a few showstoppers, yes, but, I'll say it again: the game is barely out two weeks. 

I'm saying debacle because any type of quality assurance would not have deemed this as a finished product for release. Even though I do like the product, promoting as a final release to the mass market was and is wrong. Promoting it as early access would have been the right thing to do.

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26 minutes ago, FlyingInACessna said:

For sure. I was shocked too. I used heaven to benchmark my OC two days before the release and it ran fine on XP11 too, but I noticed as soon as I’d take off in MSFS and the photogrammetry around me would start to load, it would freeze and then crash.

It's one of the few programs that uses nearly every component of your PC to almost it's max. CPU, GPU, VRAM, RAM, SSD and even network bandwidth.

FSX | DCS | X-Plane 11 | MSFS 2020 | IL2:BoX

Favorite aircraft currently: MSFS Savage Cub

Its AVX for the cpu , take care when enable HT cpu temp can be high with much vcore 

GPU , if its a good one no problem to OC here you see 1000mhz OC on the mems 7000 to 8000 gpu clock up to 2100mhz , Galax 2080TI AIO cooled NZXT 280 rad.

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