Have just flown a dawn flight from Kos to Cairo...the 5L ILS approach. The single best sim experience I think I’ve ever had. Cairo airport is out of this world.

Got me thinking - I’m guilty of this too - complaining about such and such a building not being modelled or a city not being hand crafted, or photogrammetry. But flying over a huge expense of desert I reflected on the thought that anyone - from anywhere in the world - might fly over their village or house - no matter how obscure the location. And there’s a kind of egalitarianism with the Asobo approach here. That tiny, dusty farm I passed south of Cairo is as well modelled as my street in London. Probably nobody will ever fly up to that farm again, or think about the people who live there, in that specific house. But it’s all there, and it is huge, just huge. I’m going to be lost in this sim for years.(Even before the serious aircraft turn up) 🙂

Something from yesterday that was also notable for me: flying around Munich in one of the Cubs, I had about 10 minutes when I entirely forgot I was in a sim. I’ve been near that before but this was proper out-of-body stuff. 
 

Hope at least some of you are having similar experiences. 

I haven’t been out of the house in three days.
 

 

Edited August 23, 20205 yr by Nate1

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And when she was good, she was very, very good,
But when she was bad she was horrid.

-- Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

😄 

I have experienced some truly magical moments in MSFS.  

I'm looking forward to the less than magical moments being fixed at some point. 🙂  In the mean time I'm learning to ignore them.  Because the magic is worth it.

Hook

6 minutes ago, LHookins said:

-- Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

😄

I have experienced some truly magical moments in MSFS.  

I'm looking forward to the less than magical moments being fixed at some point. 🙂  In the mean time I'm learning to ignore them.  Because the magic is worth it.

Hook

I concur with you guys once the bugs are fixed and we have a2a and pmdg this will rock, not to mention Bing updates and orbx putting their spin on the region's, the nav I did yesterday really felt like some of my real life flights

6 minutes ago, LHookins said:

I have experienced some truly magical moments in MSFS.  

I'm looking forward to the less than magical moments being fixed at some point. 🙂  In the mean time I'm learning to ignore them.  Because the magic is worth it.

This, is, I believe, where we should all be at. The potential is humungous.

Tony

I have had these thoughts also. With 37,000 airports there are probably thousands out there, still yet to be seen or used. I was doing some flying in central utah last night to a couple small strips that no one ever thinks about..  It's pretty cool knowing we are no longer alone in the sky with the one click multiplayer, as I saw someone fly over at 35,000 feet probably going to LAX. 

11 minutes ago, LHookins said:

-- Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

😄

I have experienced some truly magical moments in MSFS.  

I'm looking forward to the less than magical moments being fixed at some point. 🙂  In the mean time I'm learning to ignore them.  Because the magic is worth it.

Hook

Entirely with you.

One thing I've observed is that if I look for defects, I find them. But if I'm thinking about flying, they diminish, or disappear.

 

(apart from the 1000ft monoliths, obviously) 🙂

I very much believe that these issues will be resolved, in time

"The heights by great men reached and kept were not attained in sudden flight"

(also Longfellow 🙂 )

Edited August 23, 20205 yr by Nate1

3 minutes ago, reignman40 said:

I have had these thoughts also. With 37,000 airports there are probably thousands out there, still yet to be seen or used. I was doing some flying in central utah last night to a couple small strips that no one ever thinks about..  It's pretty cool knowing we are no longer alone in the sky with the one click multiplayer, as I saw someone fly over at 35,000 feet probably going to LAX. 

Wonderful. I haven't even tried the multiplayer!

6 minutes ago, Jetman67 said:

I concur with you guys once the bugs are fixed and we have a2a and pmdg this will rock, not to mention Bing updates and orbx putting their spin on the region's, the nav I did yesterday really felt like some of my real life flights

Brilliant. Glad my optimism is shared and that these wonderful experiences are not some private delusion! Very excited for the future, and also in the present.

IMHO, MSFS has done the best job I have seen, in over 30+ years of simming, of attaining that elusive goal of "suspending reality"...I'm continually blown away with it!  I agree wholeheartedly with the OP's take on it.

There are things hidden in there that are so cool, but people are so busy looking for things to complain about, that it will take months to find the good stuff. Like the fact that R-ALT and clicking on instrument panels makes them become pop-outs that can be moved to separate screens, etc.

I agree, simply stunning and would have never thought to be able to have that level of immersion with the sim, I am completely hooked to it and can’t get enough of it, the feel and look of the panel on the C172 & 152 is amazing, I did a night tour of Toronto last night, the lights of the city, the glow of the neighbouring cities in the distance glowing off the cloud bases, it was at that point that for myself, I realized that I don’t think I can revert back to my other simulator, I know that I can’t have that level of enjoyment with my previous simulator that msfs is offering me. Msfs completely transformed my simming experience in the best way possible...

I am extremely anxious and curious to see what the future brings for this sim. It truly is revolutionary for a flight simulator.

17 hours ago, Nate1 said:

That tiny, dusty farm I passed south of Cairo is as well modelled as my street in London. Probably nobody will ever fly up to that farm again, or think about the people who live there, in that specific house. But it’s all there, and it is huge, just huge

A few days ago I was flying with the xcub around some hills/mountains in my area I know rather well by walking around.

I noticed the mesh quality is not good.

Then I get over this place:

This is a little spot I took refuge once in bad weather during a trekking.

It reminded me of that day. I forgot about the mesh.

To me this evocative power is much more valuable for the success of the product than the perfection in simulating aviation.

I do understand that this is no good for enthusiasts, but I think MS/Asobo are right focusing on this since this will be what will eventually make true their promise to support it for 10 years. Not pleasing avsimmers. That will be a very nice byproduct imo.

This was my attitude early on and I think everyone should at least give being a bit more open-minded a chance vs. just looking for the same old places we always fly in other sims

When missing landmarks in London was the hot topic, I noted that I'm much more excited to fly in Africa now that it actually looks very good and the cities are well modeled. I'm gonna have fun flying to regional airports I never would have flown into before. Flying over a desert is actually enjoyable compared to the bland default land class of P3D. I've had the urge to fly in more remote, jungle areas because of the great trees and because I know each individual hut will be there. It's just a different focus for me now.

There will be time to fly over London for the 1000th time and Orbx has already fixed it for that matter. But the point is, if you are treating MSFS like your old sims, only focusing on the areas you always used to fly in and whether they are perfect or not, you are missing out on a lot.

Edited August 24, 20205 yr by bonchie