So like many I'm highly enthused with the new FS2020 and the exceptional terrain enhancements.  But I have trouble seeing many of the instrument settings, particularly the Garmin buttons.  The King Air detail very nearly requires a magnifier.  My favorite computer outlet has 2560-1440 monitors starting at $ 350.00   Thats nearly 3X what I paid for my current 1920-1080 that I've had for a while.  I'm not chafing at the cost at all IF the purchase greatly enhances the inside button clarity.  I don't care as much about the outside at this point.  Part of me says, just buy one and try it out.  But I hate taking stuff back unless absolutely necessary, so I'd rather get some viewpoints here.  Thanks for reading this and all suggestions welcome.

 

I think you'd be likely be far happier after moving to 1440p. I use a 27" 1440p monitor and readability seems fine to me. What GPU do you have as obviously 1440p is going to be more demanding? Personally I think 1440p has been the sweet spot for gaming unless you had a 2080ti as it gave good picture clarity without requiring a monster GPU to get good frame rates. With the new Nvidia cards out soon 4k at solid frame rates is about to become a lot more attainable so might be something to consider depending on your plans for your GPU.

Thanks for the quick reply.  That's exactly the size I had in mind, pending the readability issue. 

I have a 32' Asus running 1440p and its perfectly fine for reading the gauges. The only issue I ever saw was recently with the QW787 for P3Dv5 and this was caused by an in-sim graphics setting - cant blame the monitor. Apart from that never had any issues with this native resolution and size of monitor.

Just a comment on 4K. 4K is becoming the new norm but you will need more GPU power to process those extra pixels. Not everyone can afford a top range GPU costing over $500 therefore 1440p has been the sweet spot as the previous poster noted.

I would recommend you read some web reviews of the specific monitor you have in mind before making a purchasing decision.

 

I did this for my purchase to assess the reliability of the monitor and what inherent problems users typically face. e.g does a monitor design/model suffer from a reported large number of dead pixels for instance.

My advice is do the research first. There's a plethora of monitors in the market with good deals so dont feel rushed. You will feel more confident when you the make that final decision to buy.

 

Hope that helps a little..

@anitelite, hard to recommend anything without knowing your CPU and GPU.

I don’t have any medium-term plans to buy MFS but in P3D v4.5 my 1080Ti can sustain 30fps in 4K at all but the busiest airports. To help in that regard I have setup FSUIPC to vary Ai traffic to maintain 30fps and on the whole it works well.

I would expect a 1080Ti would be the minimum for 2560*1440 in MFS with reasonable settings. 1440 is obviously better for sharpness but 4K will give you ultimate sharpness with 50% more vertical pixels.

But it sounds like the hardware demands for MFS are somewhat greater than P3D.

Many thanks, Ray.   I think I'm going to spring for a 1440 monitor that is the same as my 27" existing monitor.  That way I can see where we're heading and decide if later on down the road, the 4K is within reach.  The nasty compelling addictive part of this hobby is I'm always reaching for the best performance for minimum cost.  I'm nearly certain that once the full addiction takes hold, an entirely new high end build is all but certain.  But the dogs and wife have to get fed first so there's that. 😁

I have an LG 27GL850 and it supports G-Sync. I have very few stutters with my 4770K/1070 GTX rig. Don't skimp on the display! 

I just ordered the Dell - 27" IPS QHD FreeSync and G-SYNC compatible monitor with HDR from Best Buy.  I wanted to get a higher Hz refresh rate than 60hz.  This Dell goes to 165hz and it's resolution is 2560-1440. It is supposedly the same as the LG 27GL850 which is rated one of the best IPS monitors made today.  LG makes the display for Dell, as you probably know.  This Dell gets very high ratings and I should have it Wednesday of this week.

I currently have an LG 27UL600 which is 4K, but it is limited to 60hz.  I truly believe this new monitor will help me with the terrible stutters I get in P3dv5.  I do not get stutters in v4.5.  I will try the monitor for less than 30 days and if it works well, I will keep it.  If not, I'll return it.  Simple as that.

Stan

Edited September 21, 20205 yr by spilok

Got the Dell 27" IPS QHD  monitor.  Used it 1 day and it's going back.  Quality of image doesn't compare to the LG.  The 4K resolution is hard to beat. The Dell did better with V5 at 165Hz.  Absolutely no stutters.  However, the resolution was just not there.  I guess I'll have to wait for the new LG.  The one I'm referring to is the LG-27GN950-B.  It's out but tremendously backordered.  It's 4K, has a higher refresh rate, and excellent resolution.  Great reviews.  I'm on a waiting list for that monitor.

Stan

This is why the 3000 Series has disappointed some it`s intended for 4K Gaming, in fact Jenson stated to get the best out off the 3090 use 8K, and it`s the only card with NV link support for developers for rendering.  

 

Edited September 24, 20205 yr by G-RFRY

On 9/21/2020 at 1:47 AM, spilok said:

I just ordered the Dell - 27" IPS QHD FreeSync and G-SYNC compatible monitor with HDR from Best Buy.  I wanted to get a higher Hz refresh rate than 60hz.

I'm curious why you would want such a high refresh rate. I'm guessing you play games that can benefit from it. For flight simming 60Hz is fine and in fact I've been running my 4K BenQ 32" at 30Hz for a few months now and the smoothness is wonderful.

27" for a 4K monitor is very small with few models. 32" will give you far more choice.

2 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

I'm curious why you would want such a high refresh rate. I'm guessing you play games that can benefit from it. For flight simming 60Hz is fine and in fact I've been running my 4K BenQ 32" at 30Hz for a few months now and the smoothness is wonderful.

27" for a 4K monitor is very small with few models. 32" will give you far more choice.

Ray, I just thought a higher refresh rate could alleviate some of the severe pauses I get flying P3dV5.  I tried it yesterday, and I can honestly say that I flew V5 for hours without a single debilitating pause or stutter. This was with the Dell 165hz monitor.  I don't know if it was a coincidence or what, but when I decided to send that monitor back (because of the non-4K resolution that I've become accustomed to), I went back to my LG 4K 60hz monitor and V5 stuttered to the point that I had to end the flight.  Perhaps my 60hz LG has a problem.  Maybe I'll buy another 4K 60hz monitor and see if that's a problem.  I have no problems with stuttering in V4.5 or MSFS.  V4.5 is even set up with sliders all to the right - no problem.  V5 has sliders half way and I still get massive stuttering about 100 miles into every flight.  It's perplexing. 

I'm just trying different monitors to see if I can alleviate this problem.

Stan

Stan,

I don't have P3Dv5 but if you don't have problems with v4.5 the chances are it's going to be the sim, not the hardware.

With knowing your CPU/GPU and how you have things configured it's hard to advise. Try 30Hz if your monitor supports it. Leave VSync on and set performance to unlimited. That gives excellent smoothness for me.

When researching monitors look for those that can run at 30Hz. It makes a huge difference.

3 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Stan,

I don't have P3Dv5 but if you don't have problems with v4.5 the chances are it's going to be the sim, not the hardware.

With knowing your CPU/GPU and how you have things configured it's hard to advise. Try 30Hz if your monitor supports it. Leave VSync on and set performance to unlimited. That gives excellent smoothness for me.

When researching monitors look for those that can run at 30Hz. It makes a huge difference.

Ray,

My monitor can step down to 30hz.  However, it does not run well on 30hz with a resolution of 3840x2160.  After it's set, it goes back to 60hz.  I've tried lowering the resolution and using 30hz but it does revert back to 60hz.  Also, changing to 30hz makes for a pretty jerky mouse movement.  I'm sure there is a sweet spot for resolution and 30hz, and I will keep trying to find it.

I know, however, that many simmers run at 60hz with V5 and it seems to work well.  Very confusing.  Oh well, I'm retired and we're still staying home most of the time, so I'll keep experimenting.

Stan

Stan,

Can you give me the exact model of your monitor and I’ll check if it supports 30Hz. If you set it in Nvidia Control Panel it should stick. I’ve never had mine revert to 60Hz.

Yes, the mouse is jerky but I’ve learned to accept that because the benefits of staying with 30Hz are so good.

What CPU and GPU do you have?