Ok thanks, in this case I did not see the IAF (assuming that’s what ATC would be clearing me to).

Does it matter if I did not select any approach during flight planning before launching the flight?

I've just loaded the CJ4 without the mod to test if the problems with VOR and LOC are present as well. And they are.

I don't know if this problems existed before the patch, but maybe the patch 1.8.3.0 has broken the CJ4 too?

6 hours ago, regis9 said:

Ok thanks, in this case I did not see the IAF (assuming that’s what ATC would be clearing me to).

Does it matter if I did not select any approach during flight planning before launching the flight?

As long as it is selected and EXEC'd in the FMS itself (go to DEP/ARR, and have an approach selected in the ARRIVALS side of things, then on the DIRECT TO page, you should see all your departure, enroute and arrival waypoints, then the very last waypoint before the destination airport should be the IAF. So, basically the last non-airport waypoint listed in the direct to page should be your IAF if you have an approach listed. Remember to use the Next Page button to scroll the list down to the end...

10 minutes ago, DAL521 said:

I don't know if this problems existed before the patch, but maybe the patch 1.8.3.0 has broken the CJ4 too?

I'm going to work on this tonight and see if I can sort it out...

16 hours ago, Flyfaster said:

Did you go FLC on T/O? V/S is generally used for descents. Should not need/be full nose up trim for approach/landing?

I meant to reply to this yesterday. Not using FLC except when super stabilized because it doesn't work well as of now.

The trim thing is interesting, I'll keep an eye on it - thanks for pointing it out because I never look at the trim indicator except at takeoff (or in RW flying when in icing). In this case, I was probably a little slow because I just manually threw in my Vref since right now the landing performance page doesn't work when a landing runway isn't selected...and you can't select a landing runway if there are no procedures. Yet another default bug that's on the list to work around... Anyhow, I'll keep an eye on it because if it is running against a max sometimes, we will need to add that to our list...

Re: VS, it is okay to use anytime if it produces a known and desired pitch attitude, you just don't want to get lazy with it if you're not monitoring airspeed. I know the plane well enough to know that 2500fpm initial will get me a good acceleration pitch attitude and then I can increment it up to 4,000 for the initial climb to ~15,000'.  You're right, though, it isn't exactly SOP according to our resident CJ4 pilot, but it works well enough given the lack of working VNAV or FLC right now... VS vs VNAV vs FLC is actually a pretty common debate in the piloting community also, each with benefits and pitfalls... My own personal opinion VNAV > FLC > VS. But, when the only thing that reliably works is VS, well...it'll have to do...

 

35 minutes ago, cwburnett said:

I meant to reply to this yesterday. Not using FLC except when super stabilized because it doesn't work well as of now.

The trim thing is interesting, I'll keep an eye on it - thanks for pointing it out because I never look at the trim indicator except at takeoff (or in RW flying when in icing). In this case, I was probably a little slow because I just manually threw in my Vref since right now the landing performance page doesn't work when a landing runway isn't selected...and you can't select a landing runway if there are no procedures. Yet another default bug that's on the list to work around... Anyhow, I'll keep an eye on it because if it is running against a max sometimes, we will need to add that to our list...

Re: VS, it is okay to use anytime if it produces a known and desired pitch attitude, you just don't want to get lazy with it if you're not monitoring airspeed. I know the plane well enough to know that 2500fpm initial will get me a good acceleration pitch attitude and then I can increment it up to 4,000 for the initial climb to ~15,000'.  You're right, though, it isn't exactly SOP according to our resident CJ4 pilot, but it works well enough given the lack of working VNAV or FLC right now... VS vs VNAV vs FLC is actually a pretty common debate in the piloting community also, each with benefits and pitfalls... My own personal opinion VNAV > FLC > VS. But, when the only thing that reliably works is VS, well...it'll have to do...

 

Sounds like you have a good handle on it and are making fantastic progress. Keep up the great work!

Hey, congratulations for your project, definitely it will be a lot useful

Maybe you can check this bug below and add to your fix list:

I don't know if it happens at all airports, but i can't select the transition of departure or arrival charts in FMC.

I tought the issue was due to the incomplete database of the sim, but it is not, because using the G1000 i can select correctly the transitions. Take a look at the imgs below:

SBRJ airport, IH1C procedure, i can't select any transition that this procedure allows you to (BITAK, NAXOP, SIDUR, UMBAD waypoints) 

Using the G1000 i can select all transitions without a problem.

Thank you in advance!

 

I'm gonna fall through the door and ask straight - would it be even possible to ever have our charts somewhat implemented? I know the real CJ4 is capable of this. I never saw this being possible in XP or P3D, maybe now in MSFS? 

1 hour ago, Dennis98BE said:

I'm gonna fall through the door and ask straight - would it be even possible to ever have our charts somewhat implemented? I know the real CJ4 is capable of this. I never saw this being possible in XP or P3D, maybe now in MSFS? 

Knowing that Milviz was able to provide charts in their King Air 350i (Pro Line 21 avionics) within Prepar3D v4, I would say this can definitely be done at some point in the future.  How far into the future is anyone's guess. How long it takes Milviz to get their PL21 integrated to MSFS is probably the one answer we need. 

Earlier at FL390 at a TAS of 440 I got a fuel flow of 2100 lb/hr approximately. Is this correct? I iniatally thought it was right to usually calculate 1154 lb/hr for my flights. 

Sometimes, not all the time, after configuring for an approach in the PERF tab on the FMS, to check my VREF & VAPP speeds I get "Untitled" on the page so they are not always visible. Why could that be? 

45 minutes ago, Dennis98BE said:

Sometimes, not all the time, after configuring for an approach in the PERF tab on the FMS, to check my VREF & VAPP speeds I get "Untitled" on the page so they are not always visible. Why could that be? 

There must be an issue that the FMC template does not like, such as displaying an undefined variable, so it will show the UNTITLED page.  Is it crashing when you go to PERF or APPROACH REF?

 

And 2100lb/hr is much too high fuel flow now.  You should be burning about 1200pph total.  We have fuel flow on our list but we currently don't have a good understanding of how Asobo is modeling the jet engine.  We are doing some research but also waiting more complete SDK documentation so we can properly address it.

Edited September 24, 20205 yr by FNAL

6 hours ago, Dennis98BE said:

I'm gonna fall through the door and ask straight - would it be even possible to ever have our charts somewhat implemented? I know the real CJ4 is capable of this. I never saw this being possible in XP or P3D, maybe now in MSFS? 

When you say 'our charts' what do you mean by that? Are you asking if it is possible to view charts on the MFD? If so, yes it is and we're exploring the best approach. There are a few challenges:

1) I wonder how many people would actually use this capability given the sizing issues of the VC - I think most people are using a tablet or second monitor for this. But, if there's a lot of interest, we'd definitely be interested in knowing....

2) It is fairly easy to load an image onto the MFD - so, for example, if you had a jpg or png image of a chart, it could be displayed without much difficulty, but I personally find that to be a frustrating process. The TFDi 717 had that option in their EFB and I never used it because it was too much work to get the charts I'd want into an image format and saved in the right folder BEFORE launching the sim...

3) There is a Navigraph charts API that we've briefly discussed exploring, but can't say yet whether it could be integrated in with a menu system that is representative of how charts really work in the PL. Obviously this would require users to have a Navigraph charts subscription to work. This is how charts work in the EFB of the Aerosoft Airbus series in P3D (and maybe the Maddog?), but we haven't looked in any detail as to whether it could be implemented yet in MSFS.

The chart integration sounds cool.

I would prefer that it is possible to load .pdf files, because i don't have a Navigraph chart subscription. 😄

Loading pdf will be ideal!