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Somehow that MS FLIGHT Spirit is back...

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For the very first time since I installed MFS release version I had since yesterday the same feel / attraction / enjoyment I used to get from MS FLIGHT missions...

I started to taste the Landing Challenges, and wow, I was taken by it in a way I can only recall when using MS FLIGHT 8 years ago !

The challenges themselves, helped by the superb scenery and weather effects made a huge improvement over anything I have used in between!

Flying gliders since 1980

Flightsimming since 1992

AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)

🙂

And with the Japan Update, they promissed more Landing Challenges! Great things are coming!

Alexis Mefano

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I will finally learn how to land an aircraft under nasty weather conditions!

It still puzzles me though why the youtubes show the airline pilots dancing on the yoke like mad ???  

I was taught to be quite minimalist on my stick inputs... Well...

Flying gliders since 1980

Flightsimming since 1992

AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)

Microsoft Flight did some things better than any other simulator until now, and I'm also getting some of those vibes again. Hopefully it won't be too long until actual missions are back.

21 minutes ago, jcomm said:

I will finally learn how to land an aircraft under nasty weather conditions!

It still puzzles me though why the youtubes show the airline pilots dancing on the yoke like mad ???  

I was taught to be quite minimalist on my stick inputs... Well...

You do need pretty big control deflections on some large aeroplanes when they are landing because the ailerons are cack at those speeds; if you watch cockpit videos of DC-3s and B-17s landing, it's obvious that the ailerons are not very effective at slow speeds. Some of the large inputs you see on airliners are because the aileron rates are halved the moment the wheels get weight on them in order to prevent pod strikes.

Although yes, I agree, you do seem to see some pilots who can't leave things alone when a lot of the time it'd be better to just let the thing ride stuff out given how much inertia a big aeroplane has. When I was learning formation flying, at first I was trying to correct every little movement, with predictably rubbish results where I'd end up having to break off and come back in again, because that's a recipe for getting right out of shape. Pretty soon you learn to leave the goddam thing alone!

Alan Bradbury

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Strangely, it works, at least on the desktop sims I tested it in - ELITE,, PSX, FSX, XP... now MFS too

When under turbulent / gusting / variable winds, waving the stick / yoke "wildly" when landing even low inertia GA aircraft, but specially the heavier ones, appears to help  maintaining your approach path more within the limits ( ? )

I never tried doing the same IRL - guess none of the gliders I fly, specially the LS1-c, would like that 🙂

Edited by jcomm

Flying gliders since 1980

Flightsimming since 1992

AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)

I've got a few hours in gliders - all under instruction I might add. One of the club's instructor's favourite sayings was "Stop faffing about with the stick!" :biggrin: 

Mark Robinson

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Author of FLIGHT: A near-future short story (ebook available on amazon)

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50 minutes ago, Chock said:

Although yes, I agree, you do seem to see some pilots who can't leave things alone when a lot of the time it'd be better to just let the thing ride stuff out given how much inertia a big aeroplane has.

My instructor called that the "flight sim" disease. 😄

Happy with MSFS 🙂
home simming evolved

45 minutes ago, jcomm said:

I never tried doing the same IRL - guess none of the gliders I fly, specially the LS1-c, would like that 🙂

Yeah its all about aileron effectiveness and how the wing/aileron surface ratio was designed for a particular aircraft (Each being unique for the mission, the aircraft design itself, compromises in design vs construction (on-paper vs the real world...in terms of complexity of design, cost to build in volume, etc) it all plays a part on how an alerion design gets on to a wing and how effective it will be at all speed regimes.  

The aspect ratio of your glider wing for example, any alerion movement is going to have a big effect on the roll....much like the Extra 300...where practically the entire back-end of the wing is alerion, but its effect is because of purpose-built design as a competition pattern plane...not because of the extreme aspect ratio of your glider wing and its incredible efficiency  🙂.

In basic aerodynamics, a control surface's effectiveness is directly influenced by its size and speed of the airflow over it (I know I'm not telling you or anyone here something we all don't know...just saying as reference to my diatribe here, hehe).

Its really a fascinating topic when you explore why some manufactures went the way they did in designing the control surfaces...great reading if you're into it. 🙂 

 

 

6 minutes ago, HighBypass said:

"Stop faffing about with the stick!" 

LOL.....you're always faffing with your stick!   

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wrong word

Regards,
Steve Dra
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3 minutes ago, Steve Dra said:

LOL.....you're always faffing with your stick!   

I blame the ready availability of broadband internet... :blink::ph34r:

Mark Robinson

Part-time Ferroequinologist

Author of FLIGHT: A near-future short story (ebook available on amazon)

I made the baby cry - A2A Simulations L-049 Constellation

Sky Simulations MD-11 V2.2 Pilot. The best "lite" MD-11 money can buy (well, it's not freeware!)

Just now, HighBypass said:

I blame the ready availability of broadband internet... :blink::ph34r:

Amen brother! 🤣

Regards,
Steve Dra
Get my paints for MSFS planes at flightsim.to here, and iFly 737s here
Download my FSX, P3D paints at Avsim by clicking here

9Slp0L.jpg 

That's why you've not done much aircraft painting! 🍻

Mark Robinson

Part-time Ferroequinologist

Author of FLIGHT: A near-future short story (ebook available on amazon)

I made the baby cry - A2A Simulations L-049 Constellation

Sky Simulations MD-11 V2.2 Pilot. The best "lite" MD-11 money can buy (well, it's not freeware!)

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