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5.1HF1 crash Dusseldorf

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Hello,

Question for Flyers which have installed EDDL 2.1 from Justsim.
When i come into the near of this airport my sim crash with the Nvidia device hung.
when i takeoff from this airport (23L or R) and turn left, the sim will crash also.

I have an 1080TI with 11 GB, my sim shows me it uses 4,5  from 10 Gig. And it crash.
 When i deactivate this schenery the sim run and run and run without troubes in these region.
Also installed: ORBX Germany Noth and South, the ORBX EDDL-Files are deactivatet.
The sim only crash with Justsim EDDL2.1 activated. Which plane is irrelevant.
It crash with PMDG and also with the default F35.

can anyone confirm? please let me know.
when i am not alone, then Justsim will look into this.

thanks,

thomas

Do you have Trueglass installed in the sim?   It's installed with a number of acft--TFDi 717, Leonardo Maddog, QualityWings 787, Milviz KingAir 350i etc.

If so, disable it by renaming or removing the trueglass.dll file in your P3Dv5 gauges folder.

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

12 minutes ago, w6kd said:

Do you have Trueglass installed in the sim?   It's installed with a number of acft--TFDi 717, Leonardo Maddog, QualityWings 787, Milviz KingAir 350i etc.

If so, disable it by renaming or removing the trueglass.dll file in your P3Dv5 gauges folder.

yeah...I wish tfdi would get their act together and solve this. When your product is distributed to several prominent airliners, you have a certain responsibilty to keep it updated....

EASA PPL SEPL + NQ / CB-IR in progress
MSFS24 | X-Plane 12 

 

14 minutes ago, w6kd said:

Do you have Trueglass installed in the sim?   It's installed with a number of acft--TFDi 717, Leonardo Maddog, QualityWings 787, Milviz KingAir 350i etc.

If so, disable it by renaming or removing the trueglass.dll file in your P3Dv5 gauges folder.

Exactly what I did and since then not a single CTD anymore. Except when I am playing around with the volumetriccloud.cfg and use excessive settings just to test...but THAT is just MY fault and not necessary P3D 😉

Thanks for posting this.  

Edited by mpo910

Regards,

Marcus P.

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36 minutes ago, w6kd said:

Do you have Trueglass installed in the sim?   It's installed with a number of acft--TFDi 717, Leonardo Maddog, QualityWings 787, Milviz KingAir 350i etc.

If so, disable it by renaming or removing the trueglass.dll file in your P3Dv5 gauges folder.

thanks, i will disable this, report back, im testing.

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disable trueglass did not help. maybe an other Problem:
My sim crash when GPU memory goes over 4,5 Gb.
Is there any way to thest the Vram from a 1080 TI?

 

Reallight? 

 

 
 
 
 
 
  913456

Hi Thomas, just checked it with EDDL2.1, PMDG737, Orbx GEN and GES, LCEurope, AIG-Traffic, P3DV5.1HF1, AS incl. ASA (trueglass off) - no problems! 

Edited by LarsA

54 minutes ago, Alti said:

disable trueglass did not help. maybe an other Problem:
My sim crash when GPU memory goes over 4,5 Gb.
Is there any way to thest the Vram from a 1080 TI?

The OCCT test suite has a GPU stress test that should give you an idea if your VRAM is a problem.

Another thought, though--are you using a factory-overclocked GPU?  I have twice run into issues with a factory overclock on a GPU slowly losing its mojo, and slowing the GPU down towards the chipset's design frequencies fixed it both times.

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

33 minutes ago, fluffyflops said:

Reallight?

I've not run into problems with Reallight, though I sorta expected to.  Trueglass...whole different story there.  Pretty much a no-go if you need VSync on P3Dv5.x

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

36 minutes ago, w6kd said:

and slowing the GPU down towards the chipset's design frequencies fixed it both times.

Hey Bob,

How do you do that. I'm having a terrible time with this error.

Thanks,

Jesse

Jesse Cochran
"... eyes ever turned skyward"

P3D v5.3 Professional, Windows 10 Professional, Jetline GTX, Gigabyte Aorus X299 Gaming 7 mobo, i7 7740X @ 4.9 GHz, Corsair H115i Liquid Cooling, 32Gb SDRAM @ 3200MHz, Nvidia GeForce GTX1080Ti @ 11 GB

ORBX Global + NALC, ASP3D, ASCA, ENVTEX, TrackIR, Virtual-Fly Yoko Yoke, TQ6+, Ruddo+ Rudder Pedals

8 minutes ago, JesC said:

How do you do that. I'm having a terrible time with this error.

I use the EVGA Precision X1 utllity.  I think MSI Afterburner will do the same, and nVidia Inspector as well.

Another thing that has helped in the past is to relax the TDR timeout settings in the registry.  See:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/display/tdr-registry-keys

Part of my standard system build with Win 10 is to set TdrDdiDelay to 20 and TdrDelay to 10

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

2 minutes ago, w6kd said:

use the EVGA Precision X1 utllity.  I think MSI Afterburner will do the same, and nVidia Inspector as well.

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll look into it.

Hadn't had much trouble with this till moving to 5.1 HF1. Then started having consistent crashes at or in the vicinity of certain airports even with a completely in clean install of the default. Moving back to original 5.1 then started producing the same errors. Have spent hours looking for a cause and seem to be coming up dry. So this may have some real merit in my situation.

Thanks Again,

Jesse

Jesse Cochran
"... eyes ever turned skyward"

P3D v5.3 Professional, Windows 10 Professional, Jetline GTX, Gigabyte Aorus X299 Gaming 7 mobo, i7 7740X @ 4.9 GHz, Corsair H115i Liquid Cooling, 32Gb SDRAM @ 3200MHz, Nvidia GeForce GTX1080Ti @ 11 GB

ORBX Global + NALC, ASP3D, ASCA, ENVTEX, TrackIR, Virtual-Fly Yoko Yoke, TQ6+, Ruddo+ Rudder Pedals

1 hour ago, w6kd said:

slowing the GPU down towards the chipset's design frequencies fixed it both times.

I assume we're talking about the core clock rather than the memory clock? I'm guessing this will become more obvious once I get into it, but your guidance is appreciated. This is a bit outside my comfort zone.

Jesse

Jesse Cochran
"... eyes ever turned skyward"

P3D v5.3 Professional, Windows 10 Professional, Jetline GTX, Gigabyte Aorus X299 Gaming 7 mobo, i7 7740X @ 4.9 GHz, Corsair H115i Liquid Cooling, 32Gb SDRAM @ 3200MHz, Nvidia GeForce GTX1080Ti @ 11 GB

ORBX Global + NALC, ASP3D, ASCA, ENVTEX, TrackIR, Virtual-Fly Yoko Yoke, TQ6+, Ruddo+ Rudder Pedals

5 minutes ago, JesC said:

I assume we're talking about the core clock rather than the memory clock? I'm guessing this will become more obvious once I get into it, but your guidance is appreciated. This is a bit outside my comfort zone.

Yes, but the memory clock is not off the table if it's overclocked above nVidia's stock specs.

Underclocking the board from the OEM settings isn't risky...it's just tweaking the clock multipliers down. 

When you start messing with increasing the GPU voltages, then you have to be more careful.

I would start by bumping the boost clock down in small, say 10 MHz increments.  If you get down to the nVidia stock clock, then do the same with the memory.

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

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