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January 14th, 2021 - Development Update

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I’m happy to conclude this discussion now. I know supersonic flight in MSFS is not currently possible until the feature is enabled by MS / Asobo. Any aircraft out there that fly > Mach 1 are hacked and meant for personal use only.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

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50 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Well this chap is flying an F-15. Can that be bought?

The reviews of the 339 on SimMarket suggest it has a max speed of 280-300kts. So not capable of supersonic flight.

The F15 belongs to Milviz and is ported over from FSX/P3d, I've reported it months ago to Colin. 

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3 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Any aircraft out there that fly > Mach 1 are hacked and meant for personal use only.

I leave you to your conclusion. For others, there is indeed a F22 Built from scratch and being quickly updated by its creator, who has offered it as a gift to the community as-is while he works on it.

We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically.
 
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5 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

I leave you to your conclusion. For others, there is indeed a F22 Built from scratch and being quickly updated by its creator, who has offered it as a gift to the community as-is while he works on it.

Capable of subsonic flight only I presume until the switch is flicked by MS / Asobo? If so, that seems perfectly legitimate.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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6 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Capable of subsonic flight only I presume until the switch is flicked by MS / Asobo? If so, that seems perfectly legitimate.

I can only go by what the the creator and the cockpit instruments say.

And by how the plane itself reacts as it is very very unstable and barely controllable at very high speed, which is possibly why the sim prefers aircraft to stay subsonic.

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We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically.
 
Devons rig
Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB /  1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe /  1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
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2 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

I can only go by what the the creator and the cockpit instruments say.

And by how the plane itself reacts as it is very very unstable and barely controllable at very high speed, which is possibly why the sim prefers aircraft to stay subsonic.

999 kts at 6,000ft is certainly supersonic which suggests it is an FSX model.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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4 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

999 kts at 6,000ft is certainly supersonic which suggests it is an FSX model.

I have to assume you don't have MSFS, or you would probably recognize the sim-native screens in the plane, which also has working autopilot etc as well as very nice special effects, also native to the sim.

The developer also offers the source code for inspection.

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We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically.
 
Devons rig
Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB /  1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe /  1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
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Just now, HiFlyer said:

I have to assume you don't have MSFS, or you would probably recognize the sim-native screens in the plane, which also has working autopilot etc as well as very nice special effects, also native to the sim.

No, I don’t have MSFS.

So what are you telling me? That this aircraft is designed for MSFS and is flying > Mach 1 when we have definitive proof supersonic flight is not currently possible? Please clarify.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

5 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

No, I don’t have MSFS.

So what are you telling me? That this aircraft is designed for MSFS and is flying > Mach 1 when we have definitive proof supersonic flight is not currently possible? Please clarify.

I'm saying exactly what I said previously.

I hear two things from different people; some saying supersonic is impossible in the sim and others saying that technically the sim can do it, but its not supported.

One of the people saying that it can, is knowledgeable enough to create a working native plane from scratch, no matter how primitive it is, compared to payware, so he gets the benefit of a doubt from me until conclusively proven otherwise.

Edited by HiFlyer

We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically.
 
Devons rig
Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB /  1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe /  1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
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@HiFlyer, your comments are noted. I’ll leave it at that and let people decide for themselves what is and isn’t possible.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

2 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Just Flight have announced an F15 for MSFS and in the blurb they say this...

While supersonic flight is not yet possible in Microsoft Flight Simulator due to their hard-coded limit for "Modern" flight models, that is the only barrier - the Eagles should all be capable of Mach 2.5 once the barrier is removed.”

So there you have it. Our friend is using trickery and a hacked aircraft.

https://www.justflight.com/in-development/dc-designs-f15-c-e-i-eagle-microsoft-flight-simulator

Or maybe he's using a fsx imported one and the legacy flight model. Is legacy flight model capable of supersonic flight in MSFS?

 

Edit: I see a link was posted to which one he's using and it's indeed a fsx ported plane. My question still stands about legacy model though.

Edited by Phantoms

James

Sorry to interrupt  but are we getting and

Update tomorrow?

1 hour ago, Bigsby said:

Sorry to interrupt  but are we getting and

Update tomorrow?

Next week. Tuesday the 26th will be the UK update.

Jim Barrett

Licensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.

7 minutes ago, JRBarrett said:

Next week. Tuesday the 26th will be the UK update.

Got it thanks

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@Phantoms, I can't help I'm afraid. Hopefully others will chip in.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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