For me the A320neo in MSFS just does not cut it yet, even with the Flybywire mod. I had the PMDG 737 and the Aerosoft A320 in FSX and I have gone back to flying them until MSFS sorts itself out which it seems will take at least a year! PMDG say they want to get their 737 into MSFS but the platform is not ready and won't be until at least Q3 2021. You would think that Microsoft would take what works from FSX including the flying lessons which are way superior in FSX.

 

Edited January 19, 20215 yr by TopgunB
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And the point is? 

26 minutes ago, omarsmak30 said:

And the point is? 

So you know it. 😄

5 minutes ago, tweekz said:

So you know it. 😄

lol now brace for impact 😄

39 minutes ago, omarsmak30 said:

And the point is? 

The point is that he is stating his opinion, as can be determined in the first two words "for me", Why do people get so personally offended by opinions that may not suit their own view?

3 minutes ago, yidahoo said:

The point is that he is stating his opinion, as can be determined in the first two words "for me", Why do people get so personally offended by opinions that may not suit their own view?

There is already another thread if someone wants to state their opinion: 

 

 

7 minutes ago, omarsmak30 said:

There is already another thread if someone wants to state their opinion: 

 

 

Then perhaps you could have pointed him in that direction in the first place? 

1 hour ago, TopgunB said:

For me the A320neo in MSFS just does not cut it yet, even with the Flybywire mod. I had the PMDG 737 and the Aerosoft A320 in FSX and I have gone back to flying them until MSFS sorts itself out which it seems will take at least a year! PMDG say they want to get their 737 into MSFS but the platform is not ready and won't be until at least Q3 2021. You would think that Microsoft would take what works from FSX including the flying lessons which are way superior in FSX.

 

Go back to FSX and enjoy the default Boeing then. Or Airbus. Let me know how that works for you.

Or maybe i should just point out how foolish it is to compare an old simulator with third party fully developed addons to a work in progress one with a default plane being partially modified by a freeware community.

Edited January 19, 20215 yr by Pastaiolo

1 hour ago, TopgunB said:

For me the A320neo in MSFS just does not cut it yet, even with the Flybywire mod. I had the PMDG 737 and the Aerosoft A320 in FSX and I have gone back to flying them until MSFS sorts itself out which it seems will take at least a year! PMDG say they want to get their 737 into MSFS but the platform is not ready and won't be until at least Q3 2021. You would think that Microsoft would take what works from FSX including the flying lessons which are way superior in FSX.

 

FSX?. What's that?. A 32-bit application in the 21st century?. Come on!.

Cheers, Ed

 

1 hour ago, TopgunB said:

For me the A320neo in MSFS just does not cut it yet, even with the Flybywire mod.

So tell us, what about the FBW A32NX modded A320 does not cut it. What makes it so bad? Also, there’s only part truth in “PMDG say they want to get their 737 into MSFS but the platform is not ready.” It can also be argued that PMDG is simply not ready for MSFS. 

Edited January 19, 20215 yr by RaptyrOne

32 minutes ago, omarsmak30 said:

There is already another thread if someone wants to state their opinion:

Everybody be aware that there is only one thread where you can state your opinion. You must not put your opinion anywhere else or the consequences will be dire. Anyone would think this place is some kind of forum where you ca... oh, wait a minute, it is.

Edited January 19, 20215 yr by Chock

More seriously, I think it is as well to be aware that whilst some TPDs have said the stability/availability of an SDK is hampering efforts at production, this situation is being addressed right now with the SDK for this kind of thing running as a parallel aim of the Aerosoft CRJ's production, with considerable effort on the part of both Asobo and Aerosoft in finalising this.

There is literally nothing stopping developers from continuing/commencing with other aspects of the production of a TPD add-on aeroplane, such as the graphics, modeling, research into the real thing and how its systems might be emulated in a sim, desired features etc. Much of this can be a straight export job of existing assets for previous incarnations from other sims, providing they are up to snuff graphically, and if the graphics were created with vectors, then this will already be the case since that's not a resolution-dependent production method. The most obvious proof of this is the propensity of extant airport models which were fired straight from Blender to the necessary new format and went on sale or were made available as freeware pretty much within a couple of weeks of the initial release of MSFS back at the start of September 2020.

None of this abdicates the need for that SDK to be done and dusted of course, but suggestions that the sim won't be in any condition to support stuff until near the end of this year are more in the nature of wild-@ss guesses than they are based on any factual basis. Yes the development of the simulated systems might be somewhat dependent on the authorised methodologies being finalised in an SDK, but as far as I'm aware, we're not too far off that data being available as a result of the aforementioned efforts of Aerosoft with Asobo.

Any half-decent developer who is basing their future plans for the development and dependence upon MSFS as their main outlet for new stuff will be well aware of this, and if they have any sense, they'll already be plugging away at the aspects which they can work on right now, and I suspect that will be stuff like replacing the limitation on vector points on models with some higher-fidelity efforts now that they are not required to be so mindful of the requirement to watch the resources overhead from a graphic standpoint.

4 hours ago, Chock said:

Everybody be aware that there is only one thread where you can state your opinion. You must not put your opinion anywhere else or the consequences will be dire. Anyone would think this place is some kind of forum where you ca... oh, wait a minute, it is.

It would be nice though, if an opinion would be expressed in a way that leads to a fruitful discussion. It's also a "discussion forum", not a blog. It's easy to pick a fitting thread where it might actually contribute to an existing discussion.

Edited January 19, 20215 yr by tweekz

Well that's true, but there is no rule that says you can't start a new thread if you like to make your opinion known so long as it is civil. My point is that i don't like it when people start playing speed cop on people's threads. There's no compulsory requirement to respond to a thread, nor need for people to start playing at moderator or arbiter of what other people can say. If a good discussion starts, great, if the thread is ignored, it drops down the list, so these things moderate themselves much of the time.

Dang that Spock, he inferred that universe-ending paradoxes would ensue should he state his opinion on a new thread.