Just now, jarmstro said:

I just want to be certain that I didn't mess up as I've been accused of doing just that. A big FPS increase for XP over Windows would be very welcome if it's possible.

Lol hahaha no you haven't messed anything. curiosity kills the cat. 

But an increase of 50% is a fantasy.  If it does then I will never ever sim XP in windows and switch it to Fedora

29 minutes ago, HumptyDumpty said:

If it was a bug with Windows driver LR would not have posted it and that related bug would have been posted at AMD website "known Issues".  That means the XPD number will be fixed by LR and not AMD.

27 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Please provide precise instructions.

I already did, grab the media creator, (KDE plasma is not dissimilar to windows 7 type UI , so should be much more familiar) create a bootable USB stick. when the machine boots into linux it will have an "install to hardrive" icon on the desktop.

Once you have a basic set up (getting the nvidia drivers installed the first time is a small pain in the [word used by developers], but hey, not everything is perfect) I can take you through the process I've been through to get my machine performant - its not just about the OS, its also about XP config, XP settings sliders are not particularly well balanced, so getting the performance requires balancing it more to push all the hardware to its limits but not beyond.

Edited February 23, 20215 yr by mSparks

15 hours ago, mSparks said:

So how do you rationalise [and mock, you said] the 242 frames over the previous second in this screenshot? Your hardware isn't that much lower spec than mine, let alone 10 times slower - perhaps its faulty?

Why not posting the location, time of day, XP11 settings, screen res (this looks like 1920x1080?) of this screenshot so that a bunch of us can just try what it looks like on their system at similar conditions? Not a scientific experiment, but could give some indications whether one would want trying Linux or not depending on what it gives on his/her system. I personally wouldn't consider worth my time trying Linux if I show 120fps in the same conditions as your screenshot above on my Win10 test system, but to each his own.

NB: this is a genuine sincere question, not a hypocritical mockery in disguise.

50 minutes ago, RXP said:

so that a bunch of us can just try what it looks like on their system at similar conditions?

Well, once he's on an operating system that I can give simple instructions to set up identically (there's no payware there), hopefully we can do exactly that, then he can work out how to do the same in windows, and we can have a fair comparison, and one way or another he should get the performance his machine should be capable of.

But I'm blaming windows for the ridiculously low framerates and load times I keep seeing banded around, because I was getting

(pure default) a couple of weeks off exactly two years ago, on an intel discontinued 7 years ago (all 4 cores at 100%) and GTX1070.

I've never even seen "First load time with Metal and Vulkan will be surprisingly slow. This is lots of shaders/pipelines compiling for the first time; subsequent runs will be faster."

Edited February 23, 20215 yr by mSparks

3 hours ago, mSparks said:

I already did, grab the media creator, (KDE plasma is not dissimilar to windows 7 type UI , so should be much more familiar) create a bootable USB stick. when the machine boots into linux it will have an "install to hardrive" icon on the desktop

Please slow down. What is the media creator? I do not have a large enough usb stick and can't get one because all the shops are shut here. Can I not just burn an iso image onto a dvd like I did with Ubuntu? Surely it won't make any difference to the install?

PS I am not prepared to change any Windows settings whatsoever. There's no point. I will, however, install another fresh copy of XP into Windows and Fedora and leave them absolutely default as I did before.

Please post a link to the Fedora iso I should install lest I be accused of installing the wrong one.

Edited February 23, 20215 yr by jarmstro

3 hours ago, mSparks said:

 

 

Fair enough , not that i know who Justsid is

but i hope you do understand that even linux / windows / nvidia / amd all are buggy.  From i gather apple is the worst. 

Every game developer / software developer will face bugs and need to have a work around , yes AMD drivers aren't upto the mark and never have been but its working fine for most and they are actually improving. 

e.g. this was in 2005-2007 , i was setting up an Ipsec server for my client using Opensuse , I had to compile a new kernel for it but it refused to work , guess what I had to write in one of  the make files 

"Opensuse is buggy"  voila my Ipsec server started running.   This was actually the line that i had put , so you get the point ?

 

 

 

Edited February 23, 20215 yr by HumptyDumpty

8 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Please slow down. What is the media creator? I do not have a large enough usb stick and can't get one because all the shops are shut here. Can I not just burn an iso image onto a dvd like I did with Ubuntu? Surely it won't make any difference to the install?

PS I am not prepared to change any Windows settings whatsoever. There's no point. I will, however, install another fresh copy of XP into Windows and Fedora and leave them absolutely default as I did before.

Just download "Rufus" and make a USB , do you have a 4GB or a 8GB stick more than enough, KDE is not the lightest of DE's (Desktop Environment just like your windows GUI) , as you are new you might fancy something similar to windows so I guess it should be ok. 

I usually switch to LXDE / XFCE but i prefer the snappiness of gnome 3.3 quick for me in terms of functionality. 

You don't need to change anything , just install it on the other SSD and select that SSD as the bootloader done. 

4 minutes ago, HumptyDumpty said:

Just download "Rufus" and make a USB , do you have a 4GB or a 8GB stick more than enough, KDE is not the lightest of DE's (Desktop Environment just like your windows GUI) , as you are new you might fancy something similar to windows so I guess it should be ok. 

I usually switch to LXDE / XFCE but i prefer the snappiness of gnome 3.3 quick for me in terms of functionality. 

You don't need to change anything , just install it on the other SSD and select that SSD as the bootloader done. 

He will just say Rufus is no good. I want him to post a link to an iso of his choice which will mean he can't dispute my findings (good or bad) because he has chosen it.

20 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Please slow down. What is the media creator?

 

12 minutes ago, HumptyDumpty said:

not that i know who Justsid is

https://developer.x-plane.com/author/justsid/

7 minutes ago, mSparks said:

 

https://developer.x-plane.com/author/justsid/

A link please to a Linux iso of your choice. Is this one to your liking?

https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/download/

Edited February 23, 20215 yr by jarmstro

1 minute ago, jarmstro said:

A link please to a Linux iso of your choice.

https://spins.fedoraproject.org/kde/download/index.html

5 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

He will just say Rufus is no good. I want him to post a link to an iso of his choice which will mean he can't dispute my findings (good or bad) because he has chosen it.

Hahahaha ok.

21 minutes ago, mSparks said:

https://spins.fedoraproject.org/kde/download/index.html

Got it. Thanks. Will burn it tomorrow. Maybe Friday before I have time to install it.

EDIT I am installing it onto an unused 1TB external drive. How do you want me to partition it? 20GB Linux with a 20GB swap and the rest for programs or what? File systems for each partition please.

Edited February 23, 20215 yr by jarmstro

33 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Got it. Thanks. Will burn it tomorrow. Maybe Friday before I have time to install it.

EDIT I am installing it onto an unused 1TB external drive. How do you want me to partition it? 20GB Linux with a 20GB swap and the rest for programs or what? File systems for each partition please.

i went btrfs filesystem (optimised for ssds), but xfs looks a better choice

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux-58-filesystems&num=2

basically anything other than ext4 from those I guess

those sizes should be fine, Bit more for os space wouldnt hurt, its a pain if you run out of that.

how much ram do you have? hopefully we'll avoid hitting the swap, 20GB should be plenty.

10 minutes ago, mSparks said:

i went btrfs filesystem (optimised for ssds), but xfs looks a better choice

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux-58-filesystems&num=2

basically anything other than ext4 from those I guess

those sizes should be fine, Bit more for os space wouldnt hurt, its a pain if you run out of that.

how much ram do you have? hopefully we'll avoid hitting the swap, 20GB should be plenty.

24GB Ram. OK I'll go 40GB for Linux and xfs. FAT for the rest or NTFS?

Edited February 23, 20215 yr by jarmstro