4 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

24GB Ram. OK I'll go 40GB for Linux and xfs. FAT for the rest or NTFS?

just stick with xfs, 

I was just looking at more detail on the btrfs vs xfs story

https://linuxhint.com/comparison-between-btrfs-and-xfs-filesystems/

interesting to see how thats developed.

 

5 hours ago, mSparks said:

Well, once he's on an operating system that I can give simple instructions to set up identically (there's no payware there), hopefully we can do exactly that, then he can work out how to do the same in windows, and we can have a fair comparison, and one way or another he should get the performance his machine should be capable of.

I'm looking forward to the XP11 scenario you'd suggest, thank you for all the Linux details and help too!

8 hours ago, mSparks said:

interesting to see how thats developed.

Yeah. Gripping.😂

2 hours ago, jarmstro said:

Yeah. Gripping.😂

I'll take you at your word 🤣

In case you missed it, its the story of Microsoft vs every other large technology company in the world wrapped in a nutshell

https://lwn.net/Articles/342892/

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In other words, Oracle likes having Linux as a platform, and is willing to invest development effort in it even if it's not directly related to Oracle database performance. Look at it this way: how many operating systems are written and funded in large part by your competitors? While it is tempting to have an operating system entirely under your control - like Solaris - it also means that you have to pay for most of the development on that platform. In the end, Oracle believes it is in its own interest to use its in-house expertise to help keep Linux strong.

The kind of detail that explains why, although btrfs doesn't win prizes for application startup or raw read/write performance, as soon as you throw parallel database stuff at it it leaps to #1 (the reason I picked it for my install).

Interesting to me (and the topic tbh) because learning the background to all the different options helps make informed choices about getting the best performance out of your hardware. I considered switching to xfs for a while there, but btrfs gets me excellent database performance and the longest life out of my ssds.

Edited February 24, 20215 yr by mSparks

I would have gone to linux, but since a lot of addons dont work with it, that is what killed that idea, and it wont change until more add ons do.

2 hours ago, mjrhealth said:

I would have gone to linux, but since a lot of addons dont work with it, that is what killed that idea, and it wont change until more add ons do.

 that bug bit me today and till afternoon i was still figuring out why my amd drivers are not working 

Edited February 24, 20215 yr by HumptyDumpty

19 hours ago, mSparks said:

just stick with xfs, 

I was just looking at more detail on the btrfs vs xfs story

https://linuxhint.com/comparison-between-btrfs-and-xfs-filesystems/

interesting to see how thats developed.

 

OK. I had some time. Fedora is installed and it boots up fine. I haven't touched it. I got a (pop-up) message saying 364 updates are available.

What now? Please could you give me precise instructions on how to proceed. If I need to enter code could you kindly let me have it in a form which I can cut and paste?

Thanks

Edited February 24, 20215 yr by jarmstro

24 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

What now?

update (by installed, I assume you mean installed to the disk)

28 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

I got a (pop-up) message saying 364 updates are available.

clicking the popup should give you the option to install updates.

restart

29 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

could you kindly let me have it in a form which I can cut and paste?

Cut and paste is the way forward, all this trying to describe icons that change from version to version is a support nightmare.

Download the nvidia drivers

https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/170134/en-us

installing them for the first time is the hardest bit, because you can't just copy and paste (because you need to go into the Linux equivelent of safe mode to install them)

There is a guide here

https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2015/fedora-nvidia-guide/

After you click update above you are starting from 2.5 Install needed dependencies, there is also a video in that guide, anything you are not sure on just ask.

______

RTX2070 yes? once you've got the nvidia drivers installed, little optional side mission

install steam

start>discover->search for steam->install it

from steam install CSGO and Quake 2 RTX.

CSGO so you have quick access to stress relief if you ever get angry with the computer, Quake 2 RTX so you can see what RTX means.

The KDE equivalent of windows explorer is called Dolphin, if you let me know the username you used to install I can do the copy & paste exactly as you need it

For pasting in commands use Konsole

_____

download the XP11 installer, save it to /home/username/Downloads/ where username is the username you created

https://www.x-plane.com/update/installers11/X-Plane11InstallerLinux.zip

14 minutes ago, mSparks said:

56 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

 

update (by installed, I assume you mean installed to the disk)

Yes. 

 

14 minutes ago, mSparks said:

clicking the popup should give you the option to install updates.

restart

OK will do.

Thanks

1 hour ago, mSparks said:

update (by installed, I assume you mean installed to the disk)

clicking the popup should give you the option to install updates.

restart

Cut and paste is the way forward, all this trying to describe icons that change from version to version is a support nightmare.

Download the nvidia drivers

https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/170134/en-us

installing them for the first time is the hardest bit, because you can't just copy and paste (because you need to go into the Linux equivelent of safe mode to install them)

There is a guide here

https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2015/fedora-nvidia-guide/

After you click update above you are starting from 2.5 Install needed dependencies, there is also a video in that guide, anything you are not sure on just ask.

______

RTX2070 yes? once you've got the nvidia drivers installed, little optional side mission

install steam

start>discover->search for steam->install it

from steam install CSGO and Quake 2 RTX.

CSGO so you have quick access to stress relief if you ever get angry with the computer, Quake 2 RTX so you can see what RTX means.

The KDE equivalent of windows explorer is called Dolphin, if you let me know the username you used to install I can do the copy & paste exactly as you need it

For pasting in commands use Konsole

_____

download the XP11 installer, save it to /home/username/Downloads/ where username is the username you created

https://www.x-plane.com/update/installers11/X-Plane11InstallerLinux.zip

Updating it has borked it. Got a message Screen lock is broken. Then black screen? It was definitely fried because there was no disk activity. Now it won't boot. And somethings borked with the boot loader to load windows.

EDIT I've unplugged the drive and now Windows loads. Phew!!! I've wiped the disk (had to use Command Prompt to get rid of the EFI partition) and will have another go but I think I need to disable/switch off the screen locker before updating whatever that is. How do you do that?

Edited February 24, 20215 yr by jarmstro

31 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

How do you do that?

1 hour ago, mSparks said:

 Right. I'll try again tomorrow. Are you sure this distro is the best one? 320 updates seems bizarre. Why don't they update the iso? It's obviously struggling to cope with so many updates? I had no trouble with Ubuntu. Are you sure you can't make that work instead? I've verified the iso files and not skipped the verifier during the actual install so it's not that.

Is there perhaps an updated Fedora iso that won't require hundreds of updates? I reckon the iso is so old there are conflicts as so many file versions of the same file are updated and installed possibly in the wrong order.

Edited February 24, 20215 yr by jarmstro

1 hour ago, jarmstro said:

320 updates seems bizarre. Why don't they update the iso?

Building and testing iso installers takes time and is limited to their core team, there are usually around 100 updates a week. Couple of million developers working on it or something crazy like that, each with their own little sandpit (thats updating all the software you installed, not just the core operating system - which you'll see as "kernel-core" updates)

Eventually all that feeds down into the RHEL distributions, which update much less frequently, and are several years behind in features (e.g. AMD5000 series support), but have been so thoroughly tested you can (and they do) trust it to look after most of the worlds bank accounts [without crashing].

The next iso will be Fedora 34, due in April iirc. ( Yeah GA on the 20th - https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-34/f-34-all-tasks.html )

Its a trade off between the "latest and greatest" and "guaranteed for trillions of dollars", we want performance in X-Plane, not start the next Google - so Fedora is good.

1 hour ago, jarmstro said:

I've verified the iso files and not skipped the verifier during the actual install so it's not that.

might be the UI, perhaps use the console window next time

start->Konsole (like the lockscreen image)

su -
dnf update

first gives you permission to edit the system configuration 

second does what clicking on the install updates did, except everything its doing and the questions it asks is like talking to a computer in the movies (just answer yes to everything).

Edited February 24, 20215 yr by mSparks

21 hours ago, mSparks said:

Building and testing iso installers takes time and is limited to their core team, there are usually around 100 updates a week. Couple of million developers working on it or something crazy like that, each with their own little sandpit (thats updating all the software you installed, not just the core operating system - which you'll see as "kernel-core" updates)

Eventually all that feeds down into the RHEL distributions, which update much less frequently, and are several years behind in features (e.g. AMD5000 series support), but have been so thoroughly tested you can (and they do) trust it to look after most of the worlds bank accounts [without crashing].

The next iso will be Fedora 34, due in April iirc. ( Yeah GA on the 20th - https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-34/f-34-all-tasks.html )

Its a trade off between the "latest and greatest" and "guaranteed for trillions of dollars", we want performance in X-Plane, not start the next Google - so Fedora is good.

might be the UI, perhaps use the console window next time

start->Konsole (like the lockscreen image)

su -
dnf update

first gives you permission to edit the system configuration 

second does what clicking on the install updates did, except everything its doing and the questions it asks is like talking to a computer in the movies (just answer yes to everything).

Success! Fedora is installed and updated. I will carry on tomorrow. I do not understand how to install the NVidia drivers at the moment. It looks to be a black art.

Just now, jarmstro said:

Success! Fedora is installed and updated. I will carry on tomorrow. I do not understand how to install the NVidia drivers at the moment. It looks to be a black art.

Awesome, waiting for the results !