March 4, 20215 yr Author Quote Sounds like Blue Origin decided to go straight for the big rocket, rather than work their way up, like SpaceX has done. There was a video on YouTube, he toured the factory, and pretty much nothing going on. It was empty. Edited March 4, 20215 yr by martin-w
March 4, 20215 yr Author The SpaceX footage, with multiple camera views etc. If you look closely it was on fire on the way down and it bounced on landing damaging the legs. So vertical speed to high. Edited March 4, 20215 yr by martin-w
March 5, 20215 yr Yep, looks like something, perhaps a seal on a propellant line, developed a leak. Is it just me, or does anyone else immediately think of the rocket ship in the 1950's Buck Rogers TV series when they see the SN10 rocket? My computer: ABS Gladiator Gaming PC featuring an Intel 10700F CPU, EVGA CLC-240 AIO cooler (dead fans replaced with Noctua fans), Asus Tuf Gaming B460M Plus motherboard, 16GB DDR4-3000 RAM, 1 TB NVMe SSD, EVGA RTX3070 FTW3 video card, dead EVGA 750 watt power supply replaced with Antec 900 watt PSU.
March 5, 20215 yr Author 3 hours ago, stans said: Is it just me, or does anyone else immediately think of the rocket ship in the 1950's Buck Rogers TV series when they see the SN10 rocket? Yep, Buck Rogers. 😁 Lands the same way too.
March 7, 20215 yr I was celebrating, watching live, and had noted the bounced landing, the lean and the fire at the base, then whilst I went to get a brew, BOOM. I missed it! Saw it on rewind though! Majestic sight - the belly flop, triple Raptor re-ignition and landing, not just the kabalmmo at the end Mark Robinson Part-time Ferroequinologist Author of FLIGHT: A near-future short story (ebook available on amazon) I made the baby cry - A2A Simulations L-049 Constellation Sky Simulations MD-11 V2.2 Pilot. The best "lite" MD-11 money can buy (well, it's not freeware!)
March 10, 20215 yr Author An update from Elon on why SN10 had issues. "Engine was low on thrust due to partial ingestion of helium from header tank. Impact crushed legs and part of skirt. Multiple fixes in work for SN11"
March 11, 20215 yr This "baby steps" progress with the SN test flights is arguably making the "Starship Saga" even more interesting. It is gripping stuff, and I think that half the world will be dancing and cheering when they finally complete a 100% successful test flight. Come on, SN11! Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
March 11, 20215 yr Author 1 hour ago, Christopher Low said: This "baby steps" progress with the SN test flights is arguably making the "Starship Saga" even more interesting. It is gripping stuff, and I think that half the world will be dancing and cheering when they finally complete a 100% successful test flight. Come on, SN11! Yep, true enough Chris, makes it even more fascinating. Apparently SN10 was still traveling at 15 mph when it landed. So no wonder the leg was crushed. Quite impressive that something that big and heavy could be almost upright at that vertical speed. There are new legs being designed as we speak, which will flip out and have auto levelling capability for uneven terrain on the Moon and Mars. Looks like SN11 will launch next week. After that I believe they jump right to SN15 which has significant upgrades. Edited March 11, 20215 yr by martin-w
March 11, 20215 yr Moderator Nonetheless, I wouldn't trust my life on the SN#xxx until it had accumulated > 100 successful and accident free flights to orbit and back... ...maybe not even then. Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
March 11, 20215 yr Author 56 minutes ago, n4gix said: Nonetheless, I wouldn't trust my life on the SN#xxx until it had accumulated > 100 successful and accident free flights to orbit and back... ...maybe not even then. Yep, that's the plan Bill. Elon has said there must be 100's of cargo flights to orbit before he will allow humans onboard. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/01/elon-musk-spacex-starship-to-fly-hundreds-of-missions-before-people.html Edited March 11, 20215 yr by martin-w
March 13, 20215 yr Author So... no helium in header tank for SN11. The helium was to address the previous loss of pressure issue. So no idea what they will do instead. SN11 will be critical, they really need to pull this landing off. Missing out 12, 13, 14 and jumping to a more advanced SN15 isn't a good idea if they can't pull of a landing.
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