Hello guys, it's been a while since I've posted anything. I'm currently  on the hunt for a new (PC) and would like to hear people's opinion's  as to what would be a good build to run FS2020 on Medium to High settings smoothly.

Although I do currently  have a tripple monitor  setup I only FLY on 1 monitor at 1920x1080P

My budget sits between $1,500 $1,800 and would like to hear people's opinion on what to expect (Performance Wise) on the current dell XPS I currently have my Eye on (Pictured Below) valued at about $1,749 taxes included or if someone has any thoughts on other Pre-Build systems that falls between the budget price listed above that can run FS2020 on Medium to High (Preferably  High) settings at a good framerate. 

 

 

Edited March 7, 20215 yr by Garciamk3g
Slight Corrections

You are going to pay a premium for a Dell, compared to almost anything else. I would want an RTX 2070 at least, but that system will run high ok in most places, but some issues in really dense areas like New York. IT totally depends how much city flying you do to be honest, and how low you fly, the lower and the more dense an area, the worse your performance.

It seems a bit high for what you're getting, but it's hard to know because of the video card shortage prices are all messed up.

 

11 minutes ago, Alpine Scenery said:

You are going to pay a premium for a Dell, compared to almost anything else. I would want an RTX 2070 at least, but that system will run high ok in most places, but some issues in really dense areas like New York. IT totally depends how much city flying you do to be honest, and how low you fly, the lower and the more dense an area, the worse your performance.

It seems a bit high for what you're getting, but it's hard to know because of the video card shortage prices are all messed up.

 

I've realized that, I was thinking of building  my own but these video cards are just to much, the prices as you pointed out are  messed up.

Thought perhaps since  I'll be flying  at 1080p (considering  the monitors I own are 1080p) 75hz, perhaps the 2070 would suffice.

The price for the above system came out to about $1,600 after adding an additional  16gb for a total 32GB, but when it was all set and done went up to about $1,749 give or take I'd have to check the cart and see.

Edited March 7, 20215 yr by Garciamk3g

Well an AMD 5600x or 5800x CPU with an AMD 6800 card (not withstanding any potential driver issues), but I don't know if you can find pre-fab systems with AMD 6800's.

AMD 6800 is the best card for the price for MSFS theoretically, as far as MSRP goes anyhow.

AMD CPU's aren't too hard to find, I got a 5800x from Newegg and their stock remained for at least a few hours. So the main issue is just finding the video card.
 

 

Edited March 7, 20215 yr by Alpine Scenery

The above system is a waste of money if you're planning to run the sim at 1080 p- Find someone who can build a system for you and save you a pocket full of cash while doing so. 

Start here to figure out what you need:

https://www.logicalincrements.com/

34 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

The above system is a waste of money if you're planning to run the sim at 1080 p- Find someone who can build a system for you and save you a pocket full of cash while doing so. 

Start here to figure out what you need:

https://www.logicalincrements.com/

Thanks for the link very useful, would you say the above setup would  be considered overkill if I plan on running the the sim @1080p?

 

 

1 hour ago, Garciamk3g said:

Thanks for the link very useful, would you say the above setup would  be considered overkill if I plan on running the the sim @1080p?

 

 

How long is a piece of string ?

You could probably save $50 by dropping to 16GB ram, maybe another  $150 by using a non RTX GPU (GTX or AMD) and something other than an i7  (i5 or AMD) and squeeze out OK performance at 1080p for a $200 or so saving.   Personally I would go the extra mile if budget allowed but in the end it is a choice you need to make yourself.

 

5 hours ago, Garciamk3g said:

 would you say the above setup would  be considered overkill if I plan on running the the sim @1080p?

 

 

There is no such thing as an overkill  except if you buy the rig for a specific app and for one or two years only. I suppose that you actually buy it to use for years and for many apps to come.

Going cheap now would have fast diminishing returns, go with the best you can afford. You will thank yourself in five years. Don’t try to shave pennies at the edge.

Considering that my old jalopy (see signature) runs MFS ok (not great, ok) at 2560*1440, the build you are considering should work well in most situations. We still do not know the impact of a really complex aircraft though as there is none on the market right now. 

A last caveat, contrary to its predecessors and competitors,  MFS is not only hardware bound, the better the connection, the better the experience.

Edited March 7, 20215 yr by Dominique_K

Why not spend $100000 on a PC. I mean, you never know.....It's like saying: I'm single but let me buy a 20-bedroom house, you never know, maybe Rihanna and Kylie Jenner are going to move in soon with their entire entourage....

1. Evaluate your needs. 

2. Use the above-mentioned website to put together a system.

3. Buy the parts. 

4. Have someone put the PC together, or do it yourself, it's really not that hard. 

I'd advise buying a system that can run MSFS at 1440 p. 

Spend the money you saved on an ultra widescreen monitor. Best investment I ever made. 

Extra tip: If you have someone build your system, pay attention to having excellent cable management. I've looked into some computer cases and it often looks like the inside of Dracula's castle. Invest in a couple of after market fans. 

Edited March 7, 20215 yr by Ricardo41

My 2c, don't buy pre builts. Save coin and bloatware by building your own. I had no idea about pc parts but after a few nights reading up. I ended up building my own and honestly its lasted me 3yrs with the odd upgrade as my budget allows. Check reddits buildapc community. They could easily put together a parts list suitable for your needs and budget.

Again, the above PC by Dell is a complete rip off. It offers no value for money.

And I second the Reddit buildapc recommendation. 

These two links are your friend. Spend a small amount of time reading up on the basics and you can build a much better pc for the same amount of money.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/wiki/index

Here in Switzerland, I have seen HP Omen gaming PCs with a 3070 and 10700k (up to 5.1ghz) for the equivalent of 1999 dollars. So that's a massively more powerful PC capable of running MSFS on ultra settings for almost the same price. I have seen the price as low as 1799 USD for the same PC a few weeks ago. 

https://store.hp.com/us/en/mdp/desktops/omen-30l-gaming-desktop#!&tab=vao

I own a HP Omen PC myself since a few years and am happy enough with it as far as pre-built PCs go. 

2 hours ago, Armchair Pilot said:

My 2c, don't buy pre builts. Save coin and bloatware by building your own. I had no idea about pc parts but after a few nights reading up. I ended up building my own and honestly its lasted me 3yrs with the odd upgrade as my budget allows. Check reddits buildapc community. They could easily put together a parts list suitable for your needs and budget.

I've built my computers and my wife's for the last 20 years so I am inclined to agree. The main advantage I see is to build exactly what you want but...  

But I've never been convinced that it is cheaper. I tend even to think it is more expensive because we don't have the same component prices than Dell has. It might of course vary from country to country though. 

And also there is a stress coming with doing your own things. Picking the right parts, fitting the hardware together and tuning the software. Anybody remembering the first time he or she has inserted the CPU pin "forest" into the MB will understand 😄.

In conclusion buying a ready-made computer is not my solution but it is  not a bad solution if you don't have much time or are angst prone😉  and the OP's choice is not a bad configuration.

 

 

 

Edited March 7, 20215 yr by Dominique_K

Normally  Building your own PC would have been the best option, but now a days GPU's  are so expensive is no longer practical.

 

After watching some youtube videos on the dell Xps I think I'm going to hold back in ordering the one I've posted above, as I dont like the type of cooling  they use, on top of that I don't even like there custom power supply.

Edited March 8, 20215 yr by Garciamk3g