March 18, 20215 yr Every time the green message bar appears I get a slight stutter until it disappears. I know I can turn it off but I need the info. Anyone else seeing this and is there an adjustment? Dan i9-13900K / Asus Maximus Hero Z790 / RTX 4090 FE / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB DDR5-6400 CL32 / Artic Liquid Freezer II 360 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / EVGA 1000W G3, 80+ Gold / Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX Mid Tower / Arctic P14 PWM Case Fans / LG C2 42 Inch Class 4K OLED TV/Monitor / Windows 11 Pro / 1Ghz AT&T Fiber
March 18, 20215 yr Assuming you're on P3D 5.1, I think the answer is no. There's a problem which has been there for a while where whenever the message text is generated, all undocked windows flash and there's a stutter. LM is aware and hopefully a fix will be in 5.2... but no way to know until it arrives. It's annoying for me because I have lots of undocked panels and also my wraparound view is achieved using undocked views and if I don't turn the message text off I get regular flickering which is immersion breaking. Supposedly there is a way to get the message text via FSUIPC or SimConnect and I'm considering writing something to do that in a seperate window. A project for the weekend, perhaps. (It's not just message text, BTW. Some other things cause the same flashing and stuttering, so it's clearly all related to the same root cause which I imagine is related to the port to DX12. Thankfully those happen less, but it's still immersion-breaking.) Edited March 18, 20215 yr by neilhewitt Temporary sim: 9700K @ 5GHz, 2TB NVMe SSD, RTX 3080Ti, MSFS + SPAD.NeXT
March 18, 20215 yr Yup happens with fsl and also gsx. Apparently a dx12 issue, so apparently nothing to do with LM (phew managed to shift that to someone else) Although Charlie the mod on here Seems convinced it's been fixed, when it hasn't. It's there clear as day. I'll also put a punt on it that LM will do jack about it. It doesn't effect their vanilla version, so they won't bother. Don't hold your breath. Edited March 18, 20215 yr by fluffyflops
March 18, 20215 yr Administrators 14 minutes ago, fluffyflops said: Although Charlie the mod on here Seems convinced it's been fixed, when it hasn't. It's there clear as day. You talkin' 'bout me?? Whatchew drinkin' flops? Charlie AronAVSIM Board of Directors-ADMIN/Moderator-RegistrarJust going to run a Chromebook and not upgrade to a Windows computer. Too many problems with the new Sims! 😱Trying to keep peace and harmony and the will of Landru on the site seems to be a full time job!
March 18, 20215 yr 55 minutes ago, charliearon said: You talkin' 'bout me?? Whatchew drinkin' flops? my bad sorry. it was the other mod w6kd , " In v5.1, LM changed the Simconnect text box from Scaleform to HTML5, and that cured the text box stutters for me and lots of other folks. I suspect a number of people did partial upgrades and still have the Scaleform windows in there...but HTML5 is working with GSX stutter-free" Edited March 18, 20215 yr by fluffyflops
March 18, 20215 yr Commercial Member I have this stutter behavior as well with text boxes and some pop out windows. Also oddly enough with ChasePlane, that I’ve never been able to fix. If ChasePlane’s main window is visible or minimized to the task bar, I’ll get stuttering and screen tearing. If it’s minimized to the system tray instead in the lower right corner, smooth. I’ve been tearing my hair out trying every combination of Nvidia and windows settings I can think of to try and prevent that. Annoying. Kyle Weber (Private Pilot, ASEL; Flight Test Engineer)Check out my repaints and downloads, all right here on AVSIM
March 18, 20215 yr Author Thanks for the update. Glad I'm not seeing things since I moved from 4.5HF3 to 5.1. I did not do a partial upgrade as this is a brand new build with Windows and P3D. I'll wait for the fix in 5.2. Dan i9-13900K / Asus Maximus Hero Z790 / RTX 4090 FE / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB DDR5-6400 CL32 / Artic Liquid Freezer II 360 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / EVGA 1000W G3, 80+ Gold / Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX Mid Tower / Arctic P14 PWM Case Fans / LG C2 42 Inch Class 4K OLED TV/Monitor / Windows 11 Pro / 1Ghz AT&T Fiber
March 18, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, Wise87 said: Thanks for the update. Glad I'm not seeing things since I moved from 4.5HF3 to 5.1. I did not do a partial upgrade as this is a brand new build with Windows and P3D. I'll wait for the fix in 5.2. Why do you think they will fix it in 5.2?
March 18, 20215 yr 3 hours ago, fluffyflops said: my bad sorry. it was the other mod w6kd , " In v5.1, LM changed the Simconnect text box from Scaleform to HTML5, and that cured the text box stutters for me and lots of other folks. I suspect a number of people did partial upgrades and still have the Scaleform windows in there...but HTML5 is working with GSX stutter-free" Did you posted this on LM Forum? Regards, Marcus P.
March 18, 20215 yr 3 hours ago, CaptKornDog said: I have this stutter behavior as well with text boxes and some pop out windows. Also oddly enough with ChasePlane, that I’ve never been able to fix. If ChasePlane’s main window is visible or minimized to the task bar, I’ll get stuttering and screen tearing. If it’s minimized to the system tray instead in the lower right corner, smooth. I’ve been tearing my hair out trying every combination of Nvidia and windows settings I can think of to try and prevent that. Annoying. Is this posted from you at the appropriate forum at LM? Regards, Marcus P.
March 18, 20215 yr Author 4 minutes ago, fluffyflops said: Why do you think they will fix it in 5.2? I should have said I hope they fix it in 5.2 seeing it is a known issue and shouldn't be too difficult to fix. Dan i9-13900K / Asus Maximus Hero Z790 / RTX 4090 FE / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB DDR5-6400 CL32 / Artic Liquid Freezer II 360 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / EVGA 1000W G3, 80+ Gold / Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX Mid Tower / Arctic P14 PWM Case Fans / LG C2 42 Inch Class 4K OLED TV/Monitor / Windows 11 Pro / 1Ghz AT&T Fiber
March 18, 20215 yr Author 5 minutes ago, mpo910 said: Is this posted from you at the appropriate forum at LM? I think this covers it. There are a few others. Dan i9-13900K / Asus Maximus Hero Z790 / RTX 4090 FE / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB DDR5-6400 CL32 / Artic Liquid Freezer II 360 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / EVGA 1000W G3, 80+ Gold / Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX Mid Tower / Arctic P14 PWM Case Fans / LG C2 42 Inch Class 4K OLED TV/Monitor / Windows 11 Pro / 1Ghz AT&T Fiber
March 18, 20215 yr 26 minutes ago, Wise87 said: I think this covers it. There are a few others. I would again grab it up and make sure this topic gets back on top....(last post is end august 2020) Just to make sure they see this (again). I would not BET on HOPE. 😉 Marcus Edited March 18, 20215 yr by mpo910 Regards, Marcus P.
March 18, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, Wise87 said: I should have said I hope they fix it in 5.2 seeing it is a known issue and shouldn't be too difficult to fix. 100 bucks says they wont.
March 18, 20215 yr Author 54 minutes ago, fluffyflops said: 100 bucks says they wont. Good try but I’m not new to P3D, LOL Dan i9-13900K / Asus Maximus Hero Z790 / RTX 4090 FE / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB DDR5-6400 CL32 / Artic Liquid Freezer II 360 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 980 PRO SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 / EVGA 1000W G3, 80+ Gold / Phanteks Eclipse P600S ATX Mid Tower / Arctic P14 PWM Case Fans / LG C2 42 Inch Class 4K OLED TV/Monitor / Windows 11 Pro / 1Ghz AT&T Fiber
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