June 13, 20214 yr Commercial Member Running into a head-scratcher, maybe someone else has some insight on. At seemingly random intervals when loading into the sim (can happen instantly when changing aircraft or loading into the sim, or after a several seconds), I'll have aircraft textures load wrong, runway/building/tree textures go missing, and visuals just general "glitch out" for lack of any other term or correlation. I did a full update client/scenery/content, do not have any modified shaders installed(shader cache rebuilt), no FPS drops or stutters like some have, and have tried to isolate this toggling EA, dynamic reflections/lighting, etc. to no avail. Even a reinstall of each of these mnodules as well. Seems to happen to almost every scenery or aircraft without any correlation I can determine. Does anyone else out there see things like this or maybe have any suggestions? System is a 7700K @ 4.8, 16 GB RAM @ 3100, 3080 (VRAM usage is usually less than 50% of capacity...only running 1440p) - have never had these issues with 5.1 or prior. Any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks. Edited June 13, 20214 yr by CaptKornDog Kyle Weber (Private Pilot, ASEL; Flight Test Engineer)Check out my repaints and downloads, all right here on AVSIM
June 13, 20214 yr When you reinstalled, did you delete your shaders and p3d.cfg? i7-13700KF, 32gb DDR4 3200, RTX 4080, Win 11, MSFS 2024
June 13, 20214 yr I'd suspect a shader or graphics driver issue. First I'd clear the DirectX shader cache, as well as deleting the shaders in the sim. If that doesn't do it, then a clean driver reinstall. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
June 14, 20214 yr Author Commercial Member 7 minutes ago, Dave_YVR said: When you reinstalled, did you delete your shaders and p3d.cfg? Yes. Kyle Weber (Private Pilot, ASEL; Flight Test Engineer)Check out my repaints and downloads, all right here on AVSIM
June 14, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, CaptKornDog said: Running into a head-scratcher, maybe someone else has some insight on. At seemingly random intervals when loading into the sim (can happen instantly when changing aircraft or loading into the sim, or after a several seconds), I'll have aircraft textures load wrong, runway/building/tree textures go missing, and visuals just general "glitch out" for lack of any other term or correlation. I did a full update client/scenery/content, do not have any modified shaders installed(shader cache rebuilt), no FPS drops or stutters like some have, and have tried to isolate this toggling EA, dynamic reflections/lighting, etc. to no avail. Even a reinstall of each of these mnodules as well. Seems to happen to almost every scenery or aircraft without any correlation I can determine. Does anyone else out there see things like this or maybe have any suggestions? System is a 7700K @ 4.8, 16 GB RAM @ 3100, 3080 (VRAM usage is usually less than 50% of capacity...only running 1440p) - have never had these issues with 5.1 or prior. Any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks. Are you running any ORBX scenery/airports?
June 14, 20214 yr 41 minutes ago, CaptKornDog said: Yes. Did you also delete your shaderhlsl folder in p3d root directory before installing client? if not, do that too, that fixed the same problem for me. Basically if you dont delete and regenerate the shaderhlsl folder, the new shaders it creates will still be corrupted. PC- AMD Ryzen 7800X3D, 64gb 6400mhz RAM, Nvidia RTX4090
June 14, 20214 yr Author Commercial Member 10 minutes ago, snapshot21 said: Did you also delete your shaderhlsl folder in p3d root directory before installing client? if not, do that too, that fixed the same problem for me. Basically if you dont delete and regenerate the shaderhlsl folder, the new shaders it creates will still be corrupted. Yes I did. Kyle Weber (Private Pilot, ASEL; Flight Test Engineer)Check out my repaints and downloads, all right here on AVSIM
June 14, 20214 yr well done detective inspector Ainscough ! ROG Crossair Hero X670e , 9900X, TUF 4090 , X4 NVME's. OS 2TB 980 Pro , MSFS 2TB WD Black , Kington Fury 64GB ram ( 6000) Corsair RM1000 PSU, Artic Freezer iii 360 AIO . Phanteks P600s Case ,TCL QM8B 50" 120 Hz TV,second 24 inch screen for charts you tube etc, and 11" touch screen for the EFB. Warthog Stick and TCA Captains throttle ( full pack) Velocity 1 Rudder Pedals , extreme3D for the Tiller,Streamdeck XL x2 / Streamdeck +/Streamdeck mini because i like pressing buttons
June 14, 20214 yr 22 minutes ago, Rob_Ainscough said: LM responded. It appears they moved many files out of Content (Install_Content.msi) into Client (Install_Client.msi). So if you execute the standard process of updating in this order: Install_Client.msi Install_Content.msi Install_Scenery.msi then you'll end up with missing files and hence black textures. To recover from this, you'll need to run the Install_Client.msi again. So the new sequence to use is: Install_Content.msi Install_Client.msi Install_Scenery.msi I've recommended LM update there support thread here. Might want to make this a sticky on AVSIM? Cheers, Rob. Have not yet installed this recent update, so am I to use the "new sequence" as you noted?? Or, am I to use the initial sequence, Client, Content, Scenery? Is the new sequence of installation a recommended fix only for this texture problem the OP has experienced? Thanks, Raymie
June 14, 20214 yr Or just download the full installer and don't bother with the individual msi if are are planning on installing all 3 anyways. Eric
June 14, 20214 yr but if you cant be bothered ! ROG Crossair Hero X670e , 9900X, TUF 4090 , X4 NVME's. OS 2TB 980 Pro , MSFS 2TB WD Black , Kington Fury 64GB ram ( 6000) Corsair RM1000 PSU, Artic Freezer iii 360 AIO . Phanteks P600s Case ,TCL QM8B 50" 120 Hz TV,second 24 inch screen for charts you tube etc, and 11" touch screen for the EFB. Warthog Stick and TCA Captains throttle ( full pack) Velocity 1 Rudder Pedals , extreme3D for the Tiller,Streamdeck XL x2 / Streamdeck +/Streamdeck mini because i like pressing buttons
June 14, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Rob_Ainscough said: No, full install means you have to reload ALL your add-ons and/or make adjustments to those add-ons. With all due respect, I have many add-ons and not all outside the sim. Orbx base files, Flightbeam, all DD scenery and PMDG are inside the main folder. I uninstalled all of 5.1, reinstalled 5.2 using the all in one file, did the verify files via Orbx Central for all my base files with them and was back flying. All my scenery is still there and 0 issues. Fired up PMDG 777 and no issues at all. This works as long as you install 5.2 were 5.1 was. Didnt have to reload anything. Edited June 14, 20214 yr by B777ER Eric
June 20, 20214 yr Author Commercial Member On 6/14/2021 at 9:57 AM, Rob_Ainscough said: LM responded. It appears they moved many files out of Content (Install_Content.msi) into Client (Install_Client.msi). So if you execute the standard process of updating in this order: Install_Client.msi Install_Content.msi Install_Scenery.msi then you'll end up with missing files and hence black textures. To recover from this, you'll need to run the Install_Client.msi again. So the new sequence to use is: Install_Content.msi Install_Client.msi Install_Scenery.msi I've recommended LM update there support thread here. Might want to make this a sticky on AVSIM? Cheers, Rob. This fixed it. Thanks. Kyle Weber (Private Pilot, ASEL; Flight Test Engineer)Check out my repaints and downloads, all right here on AVSIM
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