It's a shame that almost after a year, our friends at XPRealistic can't release his finished "FSRealistic" for FS2020 until "something" is done to allow one final piece ... a part of the SDK he doesn't have yet... as a customer and a great advocate of XPRealistic (the greatest single handidly best addon to the XP world as far as I believe) is so desparately needed here in FS2020. I love FS2020 yes, but as a pilot with 30 years now flying in real life, of which my last 18 have been in charter jets (Hawker, Challenger and now Falcons) I can tell you the dead feeling of takeoff and landing, no shaking, no ground roll noises , no giggles , no head movement is so stupid. WHY and HOW did they leave this out? I don't want to hear all the VR guys saying "because in VR you don't need it... okay, then make a switch an option ! but we do need sounds, touchdown, rattles, runway center line lights etc... and we have nothing... some planes have a faint noise but it's all too quiet.... 

Cockpits are loud, runways are noisy! try driving your car up to 150 mph on lousy roads, I  bet you'll hear noises all right!!

And nobody can crack the sound engine here, not any new sounds released, in almost a year!! so depressing!!! 

I feel like the only one who cares.

The reason I still use XP is still aircraft realism obvously, but mostly due to sound and shaking, feel, etc... from XPRealistic.... The beauty of fs2020 would be over the top, with FSR being released.... or anyone else that can fix the lackluster sounds, head movements etc... 

 

The FBW A320 has those kind of sounds so they must be possible.

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1 hour ago, JETPETER2 said:

 

Cockpits are loud, runways are noisy! try driving your car up to 150 mph on lousy roads, I  bet you'll hear noises all right!!

 

 

There is option is sound settings to choose "headset". If you use it cockpit won't be loud and the rest of sound will be more realistic

Besides the point I'm actually quite impressed with sound quality of default airplanes. Yes there is room for improvement but not as dramatic though as it was in XP

1 hour ago, JETPETER2 said:

I feel like the only one who cares.

Because it's a moot and very wide subjective complaint. Matter of fact. This rambling post is the first I've heard someone complaining about it. I'm also, after reading your post 3x now not even sure exactly what you're complaining about 

At least you didn't...

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XP is still aircraft realism obvously,

Nevermind.. You did bring up another sim.

 

2 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

There is option is sound settings to choose "headset". If you use it cockpit won't be loud and the rest of sound will be more realistic

Besides the point I'm actually quite impressed with sound quality of default airplanes. Yes there is room for improvement but not as dramatic though as it was in XP

Headset ? how is that different than just turning up or down volumes of the different options in the menu sound system - didnt know this existed just curious 

Just now, Richard Sennett said:

Headset ? how is that different than just turning up or down volumes of the different options in the menu sound system - didnt know this existed just curious 

LOL yes I used it since beta otherwise sounds are too load in the cockpit. Juts like one would not wear headset. IRL I fly with Bose A20 ANR headset and using "headset" option in MSFS does remind me of them a lot.  

Just now, sd_flyer said:

LOL yes I used it since beta otherwise sounds are too load in the cockpit. Juts like one would not wear headset. IRL I fly with Bose A20 ANR headset and using "headset" option in MSFS does remind me of them a lot.  

Have to try it out not sure what the difference would be as I stated

54 minutes ago, Richard Sennett said:

Have to try it out not sure what the difference would be as I stated

This setting is supposed to recreate what you'd hear with an active sound reduction headset. To me it just doesn't sound like they've reduced just the external volume but instead it seem to do it "properly" which is altering the frequency response curves, and this sounds quite realistic to me.

Just now, RXP said:

This setting is supposed to recreate what you'd hear with an active sound reduction headset. To me it just doesn't sound like they've reduced just the external volume but instead it seem to do it "properly" which is altering the frequency response curves, and this sounds quite realistic to me.

Ok im sold going to try it out tonight - thanks guys 

2 hours ago, JETPETER2 said:

WHY and HOW did they leave this out?

I believe it would be better asking them directly and maybe you'd get a clear answer to this question.

If I'd be speculating, I'd say that first, any add-on vendor could add these in its own add-on. Some are already doing this on their own. But another reason could also just be because they didn't thought nor they consulted add-ons vendors specialized in these types of add-ons. There is one certainty to me throughout the SDK though is that it is perpetuating the concept that an aircraft is the sole-container of itself. What I mean with this is that the SDK doesn't show to me much thoughts about mixing add-ons like some simmers are used to. It is certainly easier to "replace" files with the virtual file system (VFS) but it is still hard to mix add-ons in a "standard" way when these are overlapping the aircraft add-on itself.

never saw this "headset" option... but again, I know most of you aren't fortunate enough to get into real cockpits much.... but you are missing an aweful lot, trust me

6 minutes ago, JETPETER2 said:

never saw this "headset" option... but again, I know most of you aren't fortunate enough to get into real cockpits much.... but you are missing an aweful lot, trust me

I started my flying career with cheap FlightCom headset as a student pilot before switching to David and Clark ANR when starting flying twins. So went trough 17 types of airplanes and dozen of headset including Light Speed Zulu and several Bose. I believe I heard all kind of sounds including those after hard landings from inside and outside cockpit. So I would argue I don't miss a lot at all! LOL

53 minutes ago, JETPETER2 said:

never saw this "headset" option... but again, I know most of you aren't fortunate enough to get into real cockpits much.... but you are missing an aweful lot, trust me

This might be one of the weirdest flexes I’ve read to date 😄

1 hour ago, JETPETER2 said:

never saw this "headset" option... but again, I know most of you aren't fortunate enough to get into real cockpits much.... but you are missing an aweful lot, trust me

Are you here just to throw shade?

not throwing nothing ... only stating that 70% think fs needs no improvement in the sound department... for this I challeng you all. Now, yes the GA planes are pretty good... .the jets are horrible from inside... the engine spoolups sound like an external rear point of view, no fan, no high bypass hum... it's dull and lifeless... 10,000 hours flying in real life now, I feel differently.... fs2020 has no runway sounds, almost no touchdown sound.... in the jets that is... no vibration, or head shake.... nothing.... these things I see in real life, in the jets I fly, or in a rented Piper Archer. Either everybody is using noise cancelling (which I am not a fan of) .... or aren't real pilots so wouldn't have the chance to be exposed to all racket and noise in a real cockpit...and yes, PMDG and FBW have accomplished something in this regard. Until then, back to the beautiful world Asobo has given us, and it is spectacular but it's like going to a concert with ear plugs in.