July 8, 20214 yr Back when I started flying MSFS 2020 in February, 2021, I had nothing but CTDs, lockups, Screen Freezes, etc. etc....I kept thinking that this sim was never going to be like the P3D V 3.5, I had flown for years, that just flew and flew without a hiccup. I kept reading posts by people on this forum and others, saying how stable they thought MSFS 2020, and I would think that they were a small minority of users, because this sim has some serious flaws. Well a couple of weeks ago, as you know, I got my PC back from the manufacturer with a new GPU and PSU. Since then I have finished dozens of flights, and not one problem. I start up MSFS, fly all over the Northern hemisphere, fly a complex aircraft, with all kinds of weather, and even cranked up my settings, and it just flies along perfectly. For me, it is just as stable now, as my old and thankfully retired P3D. I am one happy camper.
July 8, 20214 yr I believe a wonky 8 year old,1200 watt power supply,and overclocking my 2080ti were my crashing issues,they are now gone. Edited July 8, 20214 yr by BIGSKY Jim Driscoll, MSI Raider GE76 12UHS-607 17.3" Gaming Laptop Computer - Blue Intel Core i9 12th Gen 12900HK 1.8GHz Processor; NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 16GB GDDR6; 64GB DDR5-4800 RAM; Dual M2 2TB Solid State Drives.Driving a Sony KD-50X75, and KDL-48R470B @ 4k 3724x2094,MSFS 2020, 30 FPS on Ultra Settings. Jorg/Asobo: “Weather is a core part of our simulator, and we will strive to make it as accurate as possible.”Also Jorg/Asobo: “We are going to limit the weather API to rain intensity only.”
July 8, 20214 yr No CTD here a long , long time ago, was never better as it is at the moment.. And i am flying a lot and long hours ! cheers 😉 08.2024 new PC is online : ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI Mainboard, AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X3D Prozessor, G.Skill DIMM 64 GB DDR5-6000 (2x 32 GB) Dual-Kit, MSI GeForce RTX 4090 VENTUS 3X E 24G OC Grafikkarte, 2x WD Black SN850X NVMe SSD 4 TB - Drive C+D, WD Gold Enterprise Class 12 TB for storage HDD, Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W PC - Power supply, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO CPU Aircooler with 7 Heatpipes, Design Meshify 2 White TG Clear Tint Tower-Case, 3x 4K monitors 2x32 Samsung 1x27 LG 3840x2160, Windows11 Prof. 23H2 - now Windows11 Prof. 25H2 Flightsimulator Hardware: Honeycomb Throttle Bravo, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, Logitech Flight Joke System, XBox Controller, some Thrustmaster stuff, Winwing CDU Panels.
July 8, 20214 yr I'm happy to say I didn't have a single CTD since the release version of MSFS, and I only had one CTD during the Alpha (that was a bug with a particular airport in the sim, though). My suspicion is that a lot of CTDs happen to people with slightly misconfigured or mismatched hardware configurations. Especially here on AVSIM, I'm seeing a lot of people talking about their prebuilt systems that might look powerful on paper, but often contain low-quality components or outright unacceptable configurations, like having 16 GB of RAM in the system, but only on one stick so it's single-channel, which can totally crater your performance in CPU- and memory-intensive apps like MSFS. Or having a prebuilt PC with low-performance AIO watercooling that looks attractive in the product description of the PC but provides less cooling than a higher-quality air cooler.
July 8, 20214 yr Author 1 minute ago, Der Zeitgeist said: I'm happy to say I didn't have a single CTD since the release version of MSFS, and I only had one CTD during the Alpha (that was a bug with a particular airport in the sim, though). My suspicion is that a lot of CTDs happen to people with slightly misconfigured or mismatched hardware configurations. Especially here on AVSIM, I'm seeing a lot of people talking about their prebuilt systems that might look powerful on paper, but often contain low-quality components or outright unacceptable configurations, like having 16 GB of RAM in the system, but only on one stick so it's single-channel, which can totally crater your performance in CPU- and memory-intensive apps like MSFS. Or having a prebuilt PC with low-performance AIO watercooling that looks attractive in the product description of the PC but provides less cooling than a higher-quality air cooler. PC experts where I work told me to avoid water-cooling which I did and glad of it. My CPU runs very cool, and I don't have to worry about a leak eating my CPU or mother board.
July 8, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: PC experts where I work told me to avoid water-cooling which I did and glad of it. My CPU runs very cool, and I don't have to worry about a leak eating my CPU or mother board. Watercooling can be great, but it needs to have a relatively large radiator and fans to provide better cooling than common air coolers. And these higher-quality water cooling solutions can be a bit pricy. There are a lot of prebuilt gaming system manufacturers like Alienware that put all-in-one watercoolers into their systems with a small radiator and fan, because it lowers the component cost for the system manufacturer. The end customer often doesn't know what it means when he buys a system with a 120mm water cooling solution, he only sees "water cooled" and thinks it must be awesome.
July 8, 20214 yr That's why people in the know don't typically buy Pre builts.. Or if they do they heavily scrutinize the parts list before buying. Watercooling is not the problem. People out of their depth is. AMD Ryzen 9800X3D/ Asus ROG Strix B650E F Gaming WiFi / Asrock Taichi 9070XT / 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000 / 2x ADATA XPG 8200 Pro NVME / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / Seasonic Vertex 1000w PSU / Lian Li LanCool II Mesh Performance / Asus VG34VQL3A / Topping E70 Velvet DAC & L70 Amp /Sennheiser HD660s2 Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke + TCA Sidestick + TFRP Rudders
July 8, 20214 yr MSFS has been the most stable sim I've ever used. Almost all the CTDs I've had (at least in the last several months) have been scenery-related and have been easy to solve once I understood what the problem was. I just completed my longest ever flight (LAX to FLL) and it went off without a hitch! I've never been this excited/enthralled with a piece of software before. The future is bright, y'all! Former Child, Current Adult
July 8, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, Maxis said: That's why people in the know don't typically buy Pre builts.. Or if they do they heavily scrutinize the parts list before buying. Watercooling is not the problem. People out of their depth is. Exactly. There's so many great resources available to properly configure or even self-build a great gaming PC at a reasonable cost. I mean, just look at your own system description. It's a perfect, beautifully balanced configuration, and it probably cost half of what someone had to pay for a crappy Alienware prebuilt "gaming PC". Edited July 8, 20214 yr by Der Zeitgeist
July 8, 20214 yr I did some homework ... slinks out of the spotlight...💨 AMD Ryzen 9800X3D/ Asus ROG Strix B650E F Gaming WiFi / Asrock Taichi 9070XT / 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000 / 2x ADATA XPG 8200 Pro NVME / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / Seasonic Vertex 1000w PSU / Lian Li LanCool II Mesh Performance / Asus VG34VQL3A / Topping E70 Velvet DAC & L70 Amp /Sennheiser HD660s2 Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke + TCA Sidestick + TFRP Rudders
July 8, 20214 yr Author Alien world is the worst of the prebuilts. Check out companies like CLX or Origin where you can select all your components. You get lifetime support for your PC. You build it yourself and something goes wonky, and you don't get to play, this component manufacturer blames the problem on the others, leaving you in the middle. .
July 8, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, Maxis said: That's why people in the know don't typically buy Pre builts.. Or if they do they heavily scrutinize the parts list before buying. Watercooling is not the problem. People out of their depth is. This. Would never buy pre-built. Have always built my own computers after researching the components. Zero issues now for the past 20+ years. Richard 7950x3d | 32Gb 6000mHz RAM | 8Tb NVme | RTX 4090 | MSFS | P3D | XP12
July 9, 20214 yr 9 hours ago, Swe_Richard said: This. Would never buy pre-built. Have always built my own computers after researching the components. Zero issues now for the past 20+ years. Same to me. Built my own computers about 30 years now and allways on Asus MB and Intel processors and have never regretted it.. cheers 😉 08.2024 new PC is online : ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI Mainboard, AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X3D Prozessor, G.Skill DIMM 64 GB DDR5-6000 (2x 32 GB) Dual-Kit, MSI GeForce RTX 4090 VENTUS 3X E 24G OC Grafikkarte, 2x WD Black SN850X NVMe SSD 4 TB - Drive C+D, WD Gold Enterprise Class 12 TB for storage HDD, Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W PC - Power supply, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO CPU Aircooler with 7 Heatpipes, Design Meshify 2 White TG Clear Tint Tower-Case, 3x 4K monitors 2x32 Samsung 1x27 LG 3840x2160, Windows11 Prof. 23H2 - now Windows11 Prof. 25H2 Flightsimulator Hardware: Honeycomb Throttle Bravo, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, Logitech Flight Joke System, XBox Controller, some Thrustmaster stuff, Winwing CDU Panels.
July 9, 20214 yr MFS has been very stable for me. In more than 150 of simming, I only had a couple of CTD, one linked to the Garmin and one by toying with a loose USB connector of the headset. Dominique Simming since 1981 - [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam
July 9, 20214 yr 12 hours ago, Bobsk8 said: PC experts where I work told me to avoid water-cooling which I did and glad of it. My CPU runs very cool, and I don't have to worry about a leak eating my CPU or mother board. Generally speaking you do not need water cooling. Something like Noctua NH15 will cool better than anything but a custom loop or one or two very good 420 mm AIO units. However there are exceptions. My gaming PC is a 9900K and 3070 in a case the size of a shoebox. No reasonable HSF would fit. Running a Big Shuriken III saw temps in the high 90's even with undervolting. The only way to keep temps down was an AIO, I shoehorned in an Arctic Freezer 120 38mm radiator with two fans on it and temps are now fine. Edited July 9, 20214 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick
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