I think we all agree that this isn't DCS and never will be, so let's put that out of the equation. But seriously - that modeling is bad, especially on the inside. 
On top of that I just saw the developer argue with random people on FSElite and justifying it along the lines of "I do not have to be professional, the people on FSElite aren't either". MSFS makes us experience all kind of things...

 

34 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

But seriously - that modeling is bad, especially on the inside. 

Could you elaborate perhaps? Because the flat statement that it's bad tells me nothing.

26 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

Could you elaborate perhaps? Because the flat statement that it's bad tells me nothing.

I'd suggest watching some of the You Tube videos now available and making your mind up based on those. Comments such as the one you refer to are more of what I was actually referring to over at FSElite, blanket statements without any actual evidence, folks casting insults and then crying foul when they're called out on it etc.

Edited August 20, 20214 yr by DC1973

1 hour ago, HiFlyer said:

Could you elaborate perhaps? Because the flat statement that it's bad tells me nothing.

Forget weapons forget everything apart from looks. Nothing else. Now instead of watching counltess vid's of the real thing, just down load this (below) and use it for nothing but a referance on how a F-14 VC looks. 

Have that open and then watch the DS F-14 vids.

Its like people here compairing P3D FSL A320 to MSFS Fenix, people like to compair to a bench mark. We know how amazing VC can look in MSFS, take the FI Spitfire/Milviz FG and PMDG DC-6 and even the default can look stunning............

Have a look at the HUD and the two displays below, the line of the canopy and work from there.

I will say nothing more. Your call 🙂

https://chucksguides.mudspike.com/DCS/DCS F-14B Tomcat Guide.pdf

Scroll down to page 30 > to see the VC and the res of the PDF is low so its much sharper really.

If you like the DS F-14 then go for it as its the only one for MSFS, if you do, then Enjoy! 🙂

Edited August 20, 20214 yr by Nyxx

40 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

Forget weapons forget everything apart from looks. Nothing else. Now instead of watching counltess vid's just down load this (below) and use it for nothing but a referance on how a F-14 VC looks. 

Have that open and then watch the DS F-14 vids.

Its like like compairing P3D FLS A320 to MSFS Fenix, people like to compair to a bench mark. 

I will say nothing more. Your call 🙂

https://www.mudspike.com/chucks-guides-dcs-f-14b-tomcat/

This is not apples to apples and just to be clear I'm a Marine and have been around the Hornet so I can appreciate the lengths to get airframes/systems somewhat correct.  However this is a MSFS forum not DCS. The DCS Tomcat is almost 3 times the price ($80 US) and you need to put the time in to master the systems . There have been warbrids in MSFS since the begining of time and maybe somone just wants to casually fly a military jet in the sim. Not sure why this has turned into such a big deal here.  Good lord, you guys will have a field day when the Top Gun expansion is released on not everything being correct.

Edited August 20, 20214 yr by joec63

10 minutes ago, joec63 said:

This is not apples to apples and just to be clear I'm a Marine and have been around the Hornet so I can appreciate the lengths to get airframes/systems somewhat correct.  However this is a MSFS forum not DCS. The DCS Tomcat is almost 3 times the price ($80 US) and you need to put the time in to master the systems . There have been warbrids in MSFS since the begining of time and maybe somone just wants to casually fly a military jet in the sim. Not sure why this has tuned into such a big deal here.  Good lord, you guys will have a field day when the Top Gun expansion is released on not everything being correct.

It was to referance to its looks as someone wanted to know, nothing to do with DCS and weapons just pure looks, you need to read it again. When Fenix was shown people did nothing but compair it to FSL A320 and thats also a diffrent sim. That reply has nothing to do with systerms or weapons. So please dont twist my reply into something is was not.

Thank you. You will be please to know that was by last reply on this topic, unless someone quotes me.😉🙂

Also your maths are wrong it £24 to £58 so its not x3 😉 Also the current mil planes like FI Spit and Milviz FG are only around £4 more. Both stunning.

Edited August 20, 20214 yr by Nyxx

2 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

It was to referance to it looks as someone wanted to know, nothing to do with DCS and weapons just pure looks, you need to read it again. When Fenix was shown people did nothing but compair it to FSL A320 and thats also a diffrent sim. It has nothing to do with systerms or weapons. So please dont twist my reply into something is was not.

Thank you. Also your maths are wrong it £24 to £58 so its not x3 😉

Maybe you didnt bring up weapons but someone did in this thread. :ie; combat. So appology for atrributing that to you . I  said almost 3 times the cost

34 minutes ago, joec63 said:

Good lord, you guys will have a field day when the Top Gun expansion is released on not everything being correct.

They've already added some items I've recognised from the Top Gun teaser including V22s and Chinooks to the sim with SU5. 

I predict strings of aneurysms as military fans seem to be a notch more completist. 

 

2 hours ago, superspud said:

They've already added some items I've recognised from the Top Gun teaser including V22s and Chinooks to the sim with SU5. 

I predict strings of aneurysms as military fans seem to be a notch more completist. 

 

 

I personally cannot wait for the aircraft carrier DLC for MSFS - carrier operations, anywhere on earth, in real weather conditions with the MSFS lighting and weather engine, even historical weather conditions ( another promised feature that's coming to the simulator ). No other simulator will be able to do that. It's going to be epic.

I'm really hoping that Asobo bring collimated HUDs and some guidance on HTML systems coding for military aircraft with their FA/18E Super Hornet. I'm pretty certain that the carrier will be something that moves, it would be crazy to hold that back seeing as FSX was able to do it.

Tomcats, Super Hornets and eventually helos operating from an aircraft carrier, in multiplayer, anywhere on earth in the biggest flight simulator on the planet. There is literally nothing that could be better for any naval aviation fan 🙂

17 minutes ago, DC1973 said:

I'm pretty certain that the carrier will be something that moves, it would be crazy to hold that back seeing as FSX was able to do it.

It did look rather stationary in the trailer but fingers crossed. 

I reckon this is one of those things that a third party will absolutely nail rather than Asobo. Indiafoxtecho look like they're adding carriers with their F35 and they're mulling movement of some sort. 

This geezer - https://flightsim.to/file/16352/europe-aircraft-carrier  showed me a preview vid with his project looking fully functional, not sure about the actual landing or start bit though. As ever it's a case of the sim allowing it all. 

10 minutes ago, superspud said:

Indiafoxtecho look like they're adding carriers with their F35 and they're mulling movement of some sort. 

Last I read on their FB page is that It's static, but they will have multiple points around the world.

4 hours ago, DC1973 said:

that modeling is bad, especially on the inside is an insult, clear as day. Many more people like it than don't. Everybody is entitled to an opinion of course - they're just not entitled to that opinion being correct, and yours is heavily outnumbered. When a thousand people are saying you're wrong, you probably are.

All of my aircraft are repeatedly updated as more is learned about MSFS, something of which you are clearly unaware or didn't bother to research. A basic requirement for valid criticism is to know what you are talking about before casting accusations and false information. You've deliberately mis-quoted me from FSElite, for instance.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't!

I have HB F14 in DCS,  a fantastic model with more switches I can be bothered with in a less realistic world environment. 

I have just bought my first FS2020 jet, this DC F14 and for the £25 it is money well spent.

I get to fly and see this hot ship dream machine in an almost real world scenario without the hassle of someone spoiling my flight shooting a missile up the old tail pipe. I mean, a tube bus or a F14 to see the world.

The sound and the sight of the Tomcat (fully loaded too) flying over the UK..heaven and no Tom Cruise to interupt proceedings!

Now there has been some beating up on this regarding the percieved quality due to the faceted edges on some features. For a modeller this is so easy to rectify BUT at a cost to FPS. The splines or curves only need to have a tighter tolerance and you get the smooth curve ...easy.

With the LOD required to function correctly in the sim compromises have to be made, So its not the dev being slack, they are working within the limitations for smooth sim performance, For me she is hot, go get her.

Hats off to DC DESIGN for this swing wing beauty and thank you.

20 hours ago, Puddin said:

Damned if you do, damned if you don't!

I have HB F14 in DCS,  a fantastic model with more switches I can be bothered with in a less realistic world environment. 

I have just bought my first FS2020 jet, this DC F14 and for the £25 it is money well spent.

I get to fly and see this hot ship dream machine in an almost real world scenario without the hassle of someone spoiling my flight shooting a missile up the old tail pipe. I mean, a tube bus or a F14 to see the world.

The sound and the sight of the Tomcat (fully loaded too) flying over the UK..heaven and no Tom Cruise to interupt proceedings!

Now there has been some beating up on this regarding the percieved quality due to the faceted edges on some features. For a modeller this is so easy to rectify BUT at a cost to FPS. The splines or curves only need to have a tighter tolerance and you get the smooth curve ...easy.

With the LOD required to function correctly in the sim compromises have to be made, So its not the dev being slack, they are working within the limitations for smooth sim performance, For me she is hot, go get her.

Hats off to DC DESIGN for this swing wing beauty and thank you.

This is probably the most concise summation of why I do what I do, in the way that I do it 🙂 Thanks, great to hear you're enjoying the F-14s.

1 hour ago, DC1973 said:

This is probably the most concise summation of why I do what I do, in the way that I do it 🙂 Thanks, great to hear you're enjoying the F-14s.

Feel free to use the summation for the next nay sayer. 
In my field I have to endure comments from people who have little comprehension of what’s done / needed before they receive the product.

Keep up with your good work, one day a Vulcan or EE lightning from the DC hanger ?? 😉

12 hours ago, Puddin said:

Feel free to use the summation for the next nay sayer. 
In my field I have to endure comments from people who have little comprehension of what’s done / needed before they receive the product.

Keep up with your good work, one day a Vulcan or EE lightning from the DC hanger ?? 😉

Just Flight's excellent Vulcan will no doubt make it into MSFS eventually so they have that covered. A lightning might be cool though... 🙂