August 17, 20214 yr You want to have fun, you go for flying, everywhere you want. The people from ATC can't do that. Like in real live, you have to have a license for every different position (Ground/Tower/App eg.) and every airport or FIR. Main reason - service with high standard. Speaking of standard - in my experience is the standard in regard to ICAO phraseology in many cases better than from the professionals at Pilot Edge. I know some people from IVAO here, they spend much more time for controling than I spend for flying. And it is in their spare time, they have a job, a family eg., such like most of us. We simply can not expect ATC service 24/7 or everywhere. The safest way is to check the websites from VATSIM/IVAO for events or a new controler makes a license check eg. They can be very busy. I use IVAO, because more present than VATSIM in my region. Best regards
August 17, 20214 yr 14 hours ago, ark said: If VATSIM posted the times it expected ATC locations to be manned, I think that would help alienate some of the frustration since pilots could plan their flights accordingly. Al They do! Every Vatsim region (as far I'm aware) has a web page where you can see the ATC Bookings in advance! I've been on there for 16 years and never had a problem in finding where and when the control is going to be. Bill Casey
August 17, 20214 yr 19 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said: OK, it's just you mentioned the West Coast of the USA. I'll check out PF3, never heard of it so far. you can check out pilot2atc got a 10 day free trial period as well, its a voice or button atc, got a moving map in the gui as well so you can check where abouts your are etc I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
August 17, 20214 yr I get that unicom is no fun, but I don’t fly on VATSIM chasing ATC I fly where I want to fly regardless of ATC online. The people that chase ATC are setting themselves up for disappointment. For those people though, outside of a handful, if you see a controller’s has been online for more than an hour, expect that they are going to close soon. The average ATC session is about 2 hours. What makes VATSIM so great is that every airplane you see is another person enjoying our niche hobby. Getting great ATC when controllers are online is just the cherry on top. Matt Bartels
August 17, 20214 yr 5 hours ago, stratone said: You want to have fun, you go for flying, everywhere you want. The people from ATC can't do that. Like in real live, you have to have a license for every different position (Ground/Tower/App eg.) and every airport or FIR. Main reason - service with high standard. Speaking of standard - in my experience is the standard in regard to ICAO phraseology in many cases better than from the professionals at Pilot Edge. I know some people from IVAO here, they spend much more time for controling than I spend for flying. And it is in their spare time, they have a job, a family eg., such like most of us. We simply can not expect ATC service 24/7 or everywhere. The safest way is to check the websites from VATSIM/IVAO for events or a new controler makes a license check eg. They can be very busy. I use IVAO, because more present than VATSIM in my region. Best regards When SATCO changed to VATSIM I was the London area 'Chief'. We spent months researching and designing the controller training program. All procedures were based on real world. One of the members was a record producer. We used his studios to record atc & pilot communications examples for the training program! CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
August 17, 20214 yr Commercial Member 1 hour ago, fastwings said: I get that unicom is no fun, but I don’t fly on VATSIM chasing ATC I fly where I want to fly regardless of ATC online. The people that chase ATC are setting themselves up for disappointment. For those people though, outside of a handful, if you see a controller’s has been online for more than an hour, expect that they are going to close soon. The average ATC session is about 2 hours. What makes VATSIM so great is that every airplane you see is another person enjoying our niche hobby. Getting great ATC when controllers are online is just the cherry on top. For sure Unicom is for announcing intentions in an uncontrolled airspace. But getting great ATC is not the cherry on top. If you participate in events great ATC is almost guaranteed every time. Europe has manned stations every day. USA is lit also several days of the week. I would agree with you though that i want to fly wherever i want and not only where ATC is online....But i guess we cant have it all, all the time. __________________________________________________________________________________________ My FS Photos - My MSFS Settings - i7-14700K / 64GB RAM / MSI 4070 Ti SUPER / 1440p
August 17, 20214 yr 20 hours ago, ark said: If VATSIM posted the times it expected ATC locations to be manned, I think that would help alienate some of the frustration since pilots could plan their flights accordingly. Al Just for the record, that was suppose to say alleviate, not alienate, above! What the heck is wrong with these darn spell checkers! 😉 Al Edited August 17, 20214 yr by ark
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