Dear Asobo Team,

Ok we've had pretty scenery for over a year now and things look great. But TOO great!

X-Box is done, SU7 and Reno is releasing soon..

How about having a "realistic" mode that we can turn on; unleashing the crosswinds, real world visibility (bad air quality, humid, fog, low vis from wildfires), *turbulence*, and pure hell that flying AT TIMES can be. Conditions in this video below are RARE, but can happen especially with the surrounding mountains and swirling winds - even with heavier aircraft. I couldn't imagine flying a Cessna in these conditions, and would likely not end well.

 

Thank you!

Edited November 4, 20214 yr by charliearon
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Is that realistic enough for you?

20 minutes ago, KERNEL32 said:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0HdGqUJuxE

Thank you!

The video you posted is  visibility actually is not bad , broken clouds, and light to moderate turbulence. In contrast you can compare 300 foot ceiling with 1/2 mile visibility below . You can get it right now in MSFS as well

3 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Is that realistic enough for you?

 

 

 

It's better but they still need realistic cloud bases and vis, RVR etc.  Usually their low cloud depiction is an area of low visibility that moves around as you land.  Of course you and I know you can have OVC002 with 10+ SM visibility.  I've yet to see something like that in the sim.

I am all for it PROVIDING turning on the full realism also turns on damage detection.   All or nothing.

Just now, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

I am all for it PROVIDING turning on the full realism also turns on damage detection.   All or nothing.

I'm for that as long as they allow for close multiplayer flight without crashes when you get 100 ft away hehe.  If the Blues can fly wingtip to wingtip so can I lol

15 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Is that realistic enough for you?

No, because I know from over 970 hours in the sim that those are just cloud "puffs" that we fly in and out of not true visibility degradation. If we are "lucky" to have one of these "clouds" over or near the airport on landing then yes you get a somewhat more realistic impression of IFR - but I'm talking about "true" IMC, fog, smog, smoke. But also turbulence and aircraft movements from natural like up and down drafts that are simply not programmed or not "turned on".

 

 

 

 

10 minutes ago, ryanbatcund said:

It's better but they still need realistic cloud bases and vis, RVR etc.  Usually their low cloud depiction is an area of low visibility that moves around as you land.  Of course you and I know you can have OVC002 with 10+ SM visibility.  I've yet to see something like that in the sim.

Frankly flying 20 years I have't never seem 200 all and 10+ visibility may be it's too rare for So Cal. 1000 agl  and 10 miles, yes ( in winter mostly). Summer is usually hazy here. LOL

Sim weather is improving and it's ongoing process. There are plenty of opportunities to practice instrument approaches. I fly in the sim mostly where I fly IRL and it looks  pretty close to a real deal.

Just now, KERNEL32 said:

No, because I know from over 970 hours in the sim that those are just cloud "puffs" that we fly in and out of not true visibility degradation. If we are "lucky" to have one of these "clouds" over or near the airport on landing then yes you get a somewhat more realistic impression of IFR - but I'm talking about "true" IMC, fog, smog, smoke. But also turbulence and aircraft movements from natural like up and down drafts that are simply not programmed or not "turned on".

 

 

 

 

I really don't understand what you mean but IMC looks pretty good for me as of right now. Turbulence is little odd but still there.

1 minute ago, sd_flyer said:

I really don't understand what you mean but IMC looks pretty good for me as of right now. Turbulence is little odd but still there.

They need a aerosol/humid/vis capability.  What they have right now isn't ideal.

I think I saw that such a feature is a part of the weather update planned for...2022?  Or "soon(tm)" I should say.

4 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Frankly flying 20 years I have't never seem 200 all and 10+ visibility may be it's too rare for So Cal. 1000 agl  and 10 miles, yes ( in winter mostly). Summer is usually hazy here. LOL

Sim weather is improving and it's ongoing process. There are plenty of opportunities to practice instrument approaches. I fly in the sim mostly where I fly IRL and it looks  pretty close to a real deal.

Must be more of a midwest thing.  When the ATIS says OVC002 and 10SM - that's what it is.  I think uniform cloud bases must not happen out there.  You get get more of a marine layer that naturally dissipates throughout the morning.  We get clouds way down low but good vis under them.  Unless you've got fog...then RVR's of like 400 hehe.  Anyway I'd love the ability to set these....meaning the option to almost enter my own METAR (sort of like we had in previous sims).  I'd also like the ATIS/ASOS weather to match what the sim shows (and what the real world metar/speci shows) if user selects LIVE weather.  I believe Asobo said they're working on a better weather system in 2022.

6 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Frankly flying 20 years I have't never seem 200 all and 10+ visibility may be it's too rare for So Cal. 1000 agl  and 10 miles, yes ( in winter mostly). Summer is usually hazy here. LOL

Sim weather is improving and it's ongoing process. There are plenty of opportunities to practice instrument approaches. I fly in the sim mostly where I fly IRL and it looks  pretty close to a real deal.

Totally agree that the Sim and the weather are GREAT I'm not saying it's bad - but indeed it does need more "work" and although just my opinion, could use a jolt of more "reality" - just something about flying in the sim seems too Google Earth'ish...

The video link I posted was not supposed to show visibility but to show as an example of how rough landing can be in real world - I have yet to EVER been thrown around like that in MSFS on landing. Back in my days of RW flying I could count on one hand perfectly smooth landings without any kind of bumps or air movement where you need to make adjustments.

Listen to the "airflow" over that airframe in the video you  can feel just how that aircraft is being pushed around just by the sound.

3 minutes ago, Mace said:

They need a aerosol/humid/vis capability.  What they have right now isn't ideal.

I think I saw that such a feature is a part of the weather update planned for...2022?  Or "soon(tm)" I should say.

I think in SoCal hazy depicted OK, not perfect but it does exerts. But I understand that live weather not the same in different part of the world. It greatly depends on RW weather station and the source Asobo uses to interpret weather.

2 minutes ago, KERNEL32 said:

 

The video link I posted was not supposed to show visibility but to show as an example of how rough landing can be in real world - I have yet to EVER been thrown around like that in MSFS on landing. Back in my days of RW flying I could count on one hand perfectly smooth landings without any kind of bumps or air movement where you need to make adjustments.

Well pax perspective, shaking hands holding camera something make things seems dramatic. I don't think landing was that rough frankly. Given  obviously  gusty winds sleepy runway I wouldn't expect a greaser.

Since I have many friends who works for airlines of fly corporate I know they must touch down wheels at certain part of the runway or go around. So super smooth landing are possible but not necessarily common thing. Landing shorter is more professional rather than longer but smoother. When for example  737 landing rough g meter  in tail of airplane notifies maintenance crew that Gs force has been exceeded upon touch down. Then airplane should go for inspection right away. Anything less  than that should be ok LOL

Since I don't  fly fancy airplanes like my friends, I define rough landing is when my butt hurt upon my student's touch down. Which often follow by front wheel  shimmy and blow oleo strut LOL 

9 hours ago, KERNEL32 said:

Dear Asobo Team,

Ok we've had pretty scenery for over a year now and things look great. But TOO great!

............

How about having a "realistic" mode that we can turn on; unleashing the crosswinds,

 

you mean like this?