Aerosoft Simple Traffic vs AIG vs PSXT + RT

[hanhamreds 592]

we should get good movement on this, now that Asobo have talked about development of the Traffic AI during (I think it was) Q1/Q2 this year.

I'm expecting things to be drastically better by years end - fingers crossed

 

 

[jarmstro 2,405]

32 minutes ago, hanhamreds said:

we should get good movement on this, now that Asobo have talked about development of the Traffic AI during (I think it was) Q1/Q2 this year.

I'm expecting things to be drastically better by years end - fingers crossed

 

 

I noticed, as I watched the World Update download and instal, that there was an update to AI Traffic. I wonder what it was?

[hanhamreds 592]

30 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

I noticed, as I watched the World Update download and instal, that there was an update to AI Traffic. I wonder what it was?

hmm interesting, I have seen an increase in real world traffic in the weeks before WU7, not sure if that's a change Asobo have made with the traffic injection - or just that there's more flights anyway now the world is opening up a bit.

 

[Bobsk8 12,823]

3 hours ago, hanhamreds said:

hmm interesting, I have seen an increase in real world traffic in the weeks before WU7, not sure if that's a change Asobo have made with the traffic injection - or just that there's more flights anyway now the world is opening up a bit.

 

I flew around a couple of large airports in Australia yesterday and didn't see any live traffic at all. 

[Dave_YVR 994]

 Live traffic from the sim usually takes some time to spawn. I just fired up at YSSY and within a few minutes I had a few arrivals, but very few at the gates until 10-20 minutes later. The longer you let it run, the better the results.

Edited February 2, 2022 by Dave_YVR

[Bobsk8 12,823]

Flying through a snowstorm in Michigan now, and there is Live Traffic aircraft all over. Most I have ever seen. 

[nicboyGS 34]

Can anyone help me understand, is PSXT + RT the same thing? they are both live traffics, then why do we need both, what are the difference between theses two?

Edited February 2, 2022 by nicboyGS

[andym001 37]

8 minutes ago, nicboyGS said:

Can anyone help me understand, is PSXT + RT the same thing? they are both live traffics, then why do we need both, what are the difference between theses two?

From my understanding, PSXT is the interface between MSFS and RT, it takes the live data from RT and injects it in to MSFS, and if you have the AIG aircraft installed, it will inject those (if that makes sense).

[VFXSimmer 1,310]

18 minutes ago, nicboyGS said:

Can anyone help me understand, is  PSXT + RT the same thing? they are both live traffics, then why do we need both, what are the difference between theses two?

AIG, PSXT, and RT are all different parts of the process in what is being described here

AIG (as its being used in this example) is the library of assets, planes & liveries for all of the airliners that are in use today.  They have an amazing collection, and also have an AI aircraft capability that you can use on its own without the realtime component if you wish.  Great tool!

RT is a service that pulls live traffic from available real time sources, just like flightaware.  It can be used for flightsimming, but that's not its only use, just like flightaware is used by savy travellers, etc to know when to go to the airport.  Saying that, RT DOES include a setting that is specifically for flightsim's and packages the data up in a way that works for our needs.  This data works for as long as a given plane's ADS-B transponder is active.  For many airports, this includes the taxiing to and from gates so you see your planes travelling the actual taxiways, performing holds, waiting on the apron when a gate is filled, etc.  This is the only part of the chain that costs money right now - there is a subscription for its service.

PSXT is the glue that pulls it together in our examples.  It connects to the simulator to get information about where your aircraft is.   It then tells RT to report on aircraft within a radius of your aircraft.  For every aircraft it finds it goes through your library of assets (the AIG planes I mentioned above, but you can also include other planes from your own community folder if you're careful about it), and then finds a match and instances that model into the simulator as moving traffic.  It does have access to animation parameters of the AI aircraft, so it deploys the landing gear and flaps at appropriate times, can cause the added AI planes to crab into the wind based on the metar from the airport you are at, etc.  And the real killer app, is that it learns and maintains a database of what planes park at which gate and, once it has enough info it does a great job of starting you off with the right planes and liveries at the gates when you start your sim session.  That same function also figures out when a live plane "parks" and then instances a static parked plane there so it doesnt vanish when the real pilot turns off their trasnponder.

Its a fair bit of work to get it all set up and running, but the rewards are pretty great once you do!

Edited February 2, 2022 by VFXSimmer

[nicboyGS 34]

Thanks for all of you for explaining how these work together. Looks like you must pay RT in order to enjoy the PSXT +RT, guess I'll give it a try and see if the additional subscription brings much more benefit to the game.

[Midcon113 9]

Is there an updated tutorial on how to get this all to work? I have the entire AIG-OIC setup installed (after hours of waiting), plus PSXT and one month of RT. RT doesn't seem to recognize that I'm in MSFS at an airport, and PSXT says it's missing a livery.xml file for the AI traffic. Usually I can sort these things out but this one is besting me tonight. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Mark

[GSalden 4,688]

2 hours ago, Midcon113 said:

Is there an updated tutorial on how to get this all to work? I have the entire AIG-OIC setup installed (after hours of waiting), plus PSXT and one month of RT. RT doesn't seem to recognize that I'm in MSFS at an airport, and PSXT says it's missing a livery.xml file for the AI traffic. Usually I can sort these things out but this one is besting me tonight. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Mark

See the docs inside the PSXT folder..

[RaptyrOne 1,450]

Can AIG be used without RT and PSXT if real world live traffic is less important? In other words, to get real world liveries onto the default AI, whether they are offline or online. If so, would the models themselves be improved, for example no pointy nose? 

In other words, could this be a free alternative to buying Aerosoft’s Simple Traffic for example?

[xenonsk 129]

2 hours ago, RaptyrOne said:

Can AIG be used without RT and PSXT if real world live traffic is less important? In other words, to get real world liveries onto the default AI, whether they are offline or online. If so, would the models themselves be improved, for example no pointy nose? 

In other words, could this be a free alternative to buying Aerosoft’s Simple Traffic for example?

Yes. Works perfectly.