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Urgent Black Friday Help Need;) - New HP Omen Build

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Hi, look at my signature, I don't have heating issues!

 

Martin

Martin Parr

Retired professional yacht skipper for vessels up to 46m

 

System: Omen 40L GT13-0054na Gaming PC; Windows 11 Home  64-bit OS; Intel Core i9-10900K CPU @ 3.7GHz; RAM 32GB; Samsung S34J55x Monitor 3440x1440 @75 Hz Resolution; NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Ti. MSFS P/D; TM Pendular Rudder Pedals, TM Warthog Hortas Throttle/Joystick Combo.

22 minutes ago, sauviat said:

Hi, look at my signature, I don't have heating issues!

You have an i9-10900K CPU, the system being contemplated by the OP has a Ryzen 5900x CPU which runs somewhat hotter.

Cheers, Søren Dissing

Intel i9-13900K @5.6-5.8 Ghz | ASUS ROG RYUJIN III | ASUS ROG Astral RTX 5090 OC | ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 Hero | 64Gb DDR5 @5600 | 1Tb Samsung M.2 980 PRO (Win11), 1Tb Samsung M.2 980 PRO, | ASUS ROG Helios 601 | 32” ASUS PG32UCDM 240hz 4K | Chaseplane | TM TCA Captain's Edition, Winwing FCU + EFIS L/R, Tobii 5 | Win 11 Pro 64 | MSFS 2024 | BA Virtual | PSXT, RealTraffic w/ AIG models

 

 

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6 hours ago, steve310002 said:

From the research I have done, I can find no reviews or information on the HP Omen 5900x build, only those Omen's with the Intel 10700k or 10900k. From what I have read, these HP Omens due to very poor ventilation suffer from heating issues causing the Intel CPUs to run very hot, and worse, that the 3080 GPU overheats easily and throttles down as a result which lowers its performance.

I have an HP Omen 30L, with the 10900k and an RTX 3090. Bought it in March, for about double that price. However, at that time, the 3090 alone was going for about 3500 CHF and was almost impossible to find. Not that today is any different...

Yes, ventilation is not very good, but not so bad that it hampered performances because of throttling, the biggest issue for me is the noise when all fans reach the maximum speed. It really seems an airplane...

I'd bet a $100 bill that the OP's hardware is not the problem. He's probably running the sim at 4K, with all the settings on Ultra, and then turning the Render Scaling up beyond 100 percent. My own hardware is seven years old and was by no means state-of-the-art when I purchased it. Yet I don't experience any of the stutters and other issues he's talking about. I have a GTX 1070.

Edited by David Mills

Processor: Intel i9-13900KF 5.8GHz 24-Core, Graphics Processor: Nvidia RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6, System Memory: 64GB High Performance DDR5 SDRAM 5600MHz, Operating System: Windows 11 Home Edition, Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX, LGA 1700, CPU Cooling: Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling, RGB and LCD Display, Chassis Fans: Corsair Low Decibel, Addressable RGB Fans, Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Fully Modular Ultra-Low-Noise Platinum ATX 1000 Watt, Primary Storage: 2TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, Secondary Storage: 1TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, VR Headset: Meta Quest 2, Primary Display: SONY 4K Bravia 75-inch, 2nd Display: SONY 4K Bravia 43-inch, 3rd Display: Vizio 28-inch, 1920x1080. Controller: Xbox Controller attached to PC via USB.

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1 hour ago, David Mills said:

I'd bet a $100 bill that the OP's hardware is not the problem

You would owe me $100 dollars in that case.

1 hour ago, David Mills said:

and then turning the Render Scaling up beyond 100 percent.

Nope, I have never done that. And I did not have everything on Ultra.

1 hour ago, David Mills said:

Yet I don't experience any of the stutters and other issues he's talking about. I have a GTX 1070.

I have a GTX 1080 and have no stutters either. I did however have severe stutters with the pre-build I returned and others reported similar performance issues. Hence why I returned it. I have been simming 20 years, and I am pretty tech savy at the tender age of 40 😉 Thank you though for your input 🙂

Edited by steve310002

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1 hour ago, virtuali said:

Yes, ventilation is not very good, but not so bad that it hampered performances because of throttling, the biggest issue for me is the noise when all fans reach the maximum speed. It really seems an airplane...

Thanks a lot for the feedback. Just a few quick questions.

Did you notice the GPU throttling back at all due to heat issues?

How did your 3D Mark Time Spy  score rank compared to similar builds? For example my former pre-build was in the bottom 8% hence the return (along with the other issues).

Does the OMEN bios or software let you overclock the CPU?

Is the memory really downclocked from 3200mhz to 2600mhz as I saw some users explain on Reddit? Does it affect MSFS performance?

Do you get microstutters in MSFS when running in 4K and frame rate unlocked?

I agree with others that the slower memory is not a big issue, hardly any issue at all.

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Although Best Buy is in America, the reviews by OMEN desktop purchasers are always a good thing to consider.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?st=omen&_dyncharset=UTF-8&_dynSessConf=&id=pcat17071&type=page&sc=Global&cp=1&nrp=&sp=&qp=&list=n&af=true&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960&keys=keys

 

 

5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB  PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.

 

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1 hour ago, Fielder said:

Thanks for the link. I by chance came across it earlier (Best Buy is a shop I visit whenever I am in the USA to fulfill my vacation tech needs 😉). Unfortunately though there are no 5900x models or RTX 3080s in the review section.

6 hours ago, David Mills said:

I'd bet a $100 bill that the OP's hardware is not the problem. He's probably running the sim at 4K, with all the settings on Ultra, and then turning the Render Scaling up beyond 100 percent. My own hardware is seven years old and was by no means state-of-the-art when I purchased it. Yet I don't experience any of the stutters and other issues he's talking about. I have a GTX 1070.

Huh ??

What an assumption to make ...

Have you got any .. you know.... advice for him apart from your unsolicited assumption of how he uses his previous pc ?

Sheesh !!..

 

Anyways ..

I usually build my own pc but considering the fact that this looks like a decent deal i would purchase the omen system  then over time purchase the following

a decent 750 watt PSU (120 USD)

a Decent PC case ( Lian Li Lancool Mesh / Fractal Meshify 2 The new version/ Corsair 4000 D Airflow) (120USD)

a Strix or Tuf level B550 mainboard (180-200 USD)

A good 280/360 AIO (120-130 USD)

and move the parts over.

Edited by Maxis

AMD Ryzen 9800X3D/ Asus ROG Strix B650E F Gaming WiFi / Asrock Taichi 9070XT / 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000 / 2x ADATA XPG 8200 Pro NVME / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / Seasonic Vertex 1000w PSU / Lian Li LanCool II Mesh Performance / Asus VG34VQL3A / Topping E70 Velvet DAC & L70 Amp /Sennheiser HD660s2

Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke + TCA Sidestick + TFRP Rudders

I bought a prebuilt modest system a year ago, $1150 + 8% tax (specs below, it had a 500 GB drive which I upgraded to 2 TB). I run every MSFS setting on Ultra (but only a 2K monitor, my system isn't going to run 4K or even 1440 resolution, no way).

It came with a water cooler, as time went by it kept running hotter and hotter, sometimes in MSFS over 105C. I replaced the (no name) water cooler with a $50 water cooler and now it never runs over 65C in MSFS and it is at 35C when Windows first boots up.

Any cpu can be cooled down the same way as any other, as the water impeller fan begins to fail then temps will rise. No doubt that is what happened with mine. (The really good ones usually last about 5 years according to Steve at Gamers Nexus on Youtube). Mine lasted 9 months. A cheap fix however, and now good as new.

I bought this cooler from Amazon, $50. It won't last forever. Right now it keeps everything way cool.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08VFCCRMR

Enermax Liqmax III 120 RGB AIO CPU Liquid Cooler (It came with a tube of heat paste too).

 

 

5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB  PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.

 

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