As most know who have read any of my current posts, I have had great difficulty in running P3D v5.3.0 smoothly in flight animation.  I have had bouts of really bad stutter, pause, a couple of 'program not responding 'white haze'...and that sort.   

I have tried so many things,  first off, downloading and installing all three v5.3.0 Musketeers. That did not produce a good result, so I mixed the Client for v5.2.22 with the two Content and Scenery of v5.3.0. That worked to bring back fluidity and stable running.  But...I had never removed the 90 GB main entry...not ever.  So, I got to thinking, ...perhaps that was, or is what is holding me back from others who have said they are having a good installation experience. So...I just deleted all four...and reinstalled v5.3 using the full setup under Admin Privileges (just to be sure), and I am also before the first run, going to do something else that I have never done in any past version upgrades, that is...uninstalling ALL my Orbx GLOBAL content...instead of always just 'verifying' the content.  

I'm about to run a totally virgin, (except for all my Orbx airports) but no alterations to the Scenery World Folder...no Orbx Global, no LC North American, South America, Europe...trees, buildings. ..any of that installed and how the first run is.  I wanted to do it this way, to see if it is any ORBX Globals that could effect a less than stellar outcome. I mean...they all are not actually VERIFIED to work 100 percent with this version and its changes...and that might be (I will find out shortly!) a contributor, OR, ..the TOTAL contributor to the sim FPS's flying all over the place...adding any Traffic to dump your FPS by half...with any of the Orbx Global series in place and activated...

So, this time...it will be a 'methodical' approach to installing and running v5.3.   If all is great with a virgin installation, I will then start adding only ONE Orbx Global into the mix, starting with Orbx Global itself. If that does not bork anything, then the next will be Vector for v5. and so on...and hopefully I will have a smooth as a baby's behind installation as some of you are reporting on your systems.  It might not even be the core installation of P3D v5.3 itself...by any of a multitude of 3rP scenery and scenic add on's that are not 100 percent compatible with this version. I hope to find that out...

It's ORBX Globals!

Wow...I have absolutely fluid 33 FPS action, with no Orbx Global installed and active.  I have the sim CRANKED RIGHT OUT...and even 50 percent Traffic (highways only) and STILL fluid and 33 sustained FPS! Wow...

So...for anybody else,  completely remove all four prior v5.2.22 entries...point the new installation to your CURRENT v5 folder, and everything will be picked up again...and first off, DELETE all your Orbx Global content...Global, Vector, LC's Trees, Buildings all of it...for there might be a conflict with this Legacy installation now.  Well, for me, it ABSOLUTELY has a conflict with v5.3. They need to bring these legacy products now up to playing nice in the v5.3 sandbox, and another thing...wow...the DEFAULT Scenery of P3D v5.3  at full all five sliders IS NOT a DOG!  Great scenery,  good A.I.  good roads, really nice specific things that even Orbx Global does not have...great churches, GREAT visuals of downtown cities and towns...gas stations, golf courses, water towers,  all of it...is in that massive new P3D v5.3 scenery...so for me...until Orbx announces that they have updated all their Global products for V 5.3...its now, presently, a non-install.  I am now getting FABULOUS performance with no Orbx Global Legacy products installed.  It was not P3D v5.3...it was P3D v5.3 with all my legacy Orbx Global installed that was BORKING the smooth running, and..and...borking the FPS, when any level of Traffic was asked for. I have Traffic now at my normal 20 percent and it runs great...with sustained 33 FPS! What I have the sim locked at...  Oh, but the way, I did put the sim on ALL ROADS (Traffic) and that works just fine now too, but I do take a hit to FPS from 33 to 24, but that is doable...and I could use the sim at that FPS, cause it is still smooth.  Repeat...no stutter, no pause, no CTD, nothing...dead smooth animation from 24 to 33 FPS. It is YOUR ADD ON'S that will be affecting what you see...legacy add on' that have not been stated to have been optimized for P3D v5.3  I know...I have the proof right in front of me on the screen...and now...v5.3.0 is a 'smooth as a baby's behind' keeper!  End of statement!

FYI

Ses/Mitch

Edited December 5, 20214 yr by Sesquashtoo

I now actually think that Orbx (new and custom) is a sleeper product ALREADY installed in the Default P3D mega Scenery installation  Sure looks that way to me, as it looks exactly like Orbx Global as far as countryside, and even VECTOR roads!  There is new and very good...very good,  Auto-Gen that even current legacy Orbx Global does NOT have...so...delete your Orbx Global right now...actually delete EVERTHING under Global in Orbx Central, and see what you will.. land class, great trees, great auto-gen...and SMOOTH, baby...SMooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooth!

Ses

I don't know about this. I've seen a couple of other posts that are saying default ground and landclass in 5.3 are no where near as good as Orbx global range of products. Are you certain that you don't have the Orbx global range of products active? The default coastlines cannot be as accurate as the Orbx OpenLC stuff.

I'm having a BLAST now...simply a blast...and even have Traffic at (50!!! percent) on ALL ROADS, at a very usable 25-28 FPS...and does it EVER ramp up immersion, and traffic is truly n every vector road, main, highway, country, tertiary, that is now in  P3D v5.3 at full Extreme Density settings.   Wonderful...so it was never anything to actually do with P3D..on my aging system...it was legacy add on's that were taking it down...but not the sim and it's new coding itself.  

If anybody reading this has stutters..this, that...FPS borking...CTD's...artifacts...you don't like the E.A. clouds...blah, blah...take out your Add on's...and run P3D.  Then, 'methodically' add them back in, one at a time...and see what happens to performance, or whatever. That is what I suggest to all...

Cheers n' Beers...I'm back in the P3D saddle at full gallop! 🙂

2 minutes ago, B777ER said:

I don't know about this. I've seen a couple of other posts that are saying default ground and landclass in 5.3 are no where near as good as Orbx global range of products. Are you certain that you don't have the Orbx global range of products active? The default coastlines cannot be as accurate as the Orbx OpenLC stuff.

OH yeah they are....at with full sliders on....everyone...at far right.  Fantastic and stuff not even seen IN the Orbx Global...loving it!  Great performance, and eve better roads, clover leafs, all of it than Orbx Global and Vector combined.  Of course that is only one man's opinion...and I am thrilled by the performance now...it was nothing to do at all with P3D v5.3 itself...it was my add on's that was borking the run of it....wow!

Edited December 5, 20214 yr by Sesquashtoo

1 minute ago, B777ER said:

I don't know about this. I've seen a couple of other posts that are saying default ground and landclass in 5.3 are no where near as good as Orbx global range of products. Are you certain that you don't have the Orbx global range of products active? The default coastlines cannot be as accurate as the Orbx OpenLC stuff.

Gotta take these threads with a grain of salt. Every few months OP posts something ranting and raving that doesn't make sense half the time. 

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52 minutes ago, F737NG said:

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"Nah..just one more comment from me...I see that a couple of the locals have given an up-scale, SierraDelta and Sparkie66 to show total support, in fact ultimate support to Chapstick that he can place judgment on another's persons posts, as to whether they should be given credence or not...his take...his view.  Who is he, to judge another's posts...and to suggest or counsel that how he feels about another's posts, should color anybody's else that reads that/those viewpoint(s), validity, or acceptance of what is posted. Who the h*ll is he to past post judgement and call that upon another forum member...and to see that two others are applauding that type of comment...tells me, that there truly is a very healthy forum bias to who is part of the forum gang, and not. Who to be given credence to, and who to be dismissed (with up-tick hand approval).  I will say only once more...I would not have, would never have, and have NEVER publicly dismissed another's opinion's, their take...for this is such a classless act on the part of the poster.  If it makes them/he feel elevated to 'cancel culture' another forum member's posting validity, ...than it must be what they/he needs to stroke down the Ego highway.   For them, I feel sorry for that character flaw.  Nuff said...   I find that kind of post, totally disgusting...and, even more that other's would applaud it...

Disgusting..."

 

Edited December 5, 20214 yr by Sesquashtoo

Can you post some screenshots of the default land textures?

1 minute ago, exeodus said:

Can you post some screenshots of the default land textures?

Sure...and perhaps I might add, that, or should have stated, that IN MY OPINION, personal opinion, that if anybody is having issues with having Orbx Global products installed which compromises their running of the sim...then the P3D scenery might just also satisfy the user as well as having the highest FPS and smoothness count they can.  Perhaps I should have stated it that way...so I do now...but will take some screen shots for you shortly...

Personally, I have no problems viewing the default scenery at full processing, to give me the 'same' Orbx hit of immersion...especially as I can now run P3D v5.3 so well!   EVERYTHING is of course subjective...but as I said, this is my PERSONAL take...and for that, has no reason to be 'dismissed' as some feel their opinion is 'more' valid.  Not at all...

 

48 minutes ago, exeodus said:

Can you post some screenshots of the default land textures?

Here is as you asked and happy to respond.  Here are shots of how my sim is configred to get those shots...and again, for Default P3D v5.3 scenery with my sim settings, I think the visuals are fabulous!  This is no 'second dog' in my opinion to Orbx Global, and I am able with my sim as you see, to get dead smooth flight animation,  have all this below me, ..and traditionally the Detroit G.D.A. (Greater Detroit Area near the GM centre)...is a killer to bring any sim to its knees, ..with all sorts of artifacts and scenic blurring out, and yet...I am going like a banshee!  So,  if somebody can't run all the Orbx that they could in prior installations...I suggest...PERSONALLY suggest, they give this a go...delete all your Orbx Global ONLY...leave the rest in place...your airports, your regions...and enjoy. Simply enjoy P3D 5.3...a USABLE P3D 5.3: Cheers

Post Edit: This again, is TOTALLY P3D v5.3 scenery with NO added 3rP of any kind...what you see, is from how I have my sim set to...and only that...!

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Edited December 5, 20214 yr by Sesquashtoo

This is extremely interesting. I think I’ll give it a try. Can always just reinstall Global if I don’t like it.

How about ORBX airports such as KSAN. Will they still be usable? There’s also many ORBX freeware airports.

2 hours ago, B777ER said:

I don't know about this. I've seen a couple of other posts that are saying default ground and landclass in 5.3 are no where near as good as Orbx global range of products. Are you certain that you don't have the Orbx global range of products active? The default coastlines cannot be as accurate as the Orbx OpenLC stuff.

Sorry to have missed your post.   I will say, and I have 'modified' my initial comment, that compared to a region like the PNW, that is superior by about 30 percent...BUT...if that 30 or so percent 'immersion factor' totally hampers your use and enjoyment of P3D v5.3, then I absolutely recommend that the Orbx Global products be deleted for now, and to use and enjoy what P3D's default world scenery will give you, and like I said, with the above screen shots...I am in no way curling my lip, or cringing with flying over this detail...at 27-33 FPS, where before over Orbx Global, I was crawling and stuttering, stopping, pausing, jumping, along at 12-17 FPS.   This B777ER is doable...and I don't think it is too bad a drop for one like myself that has always used Global based titles in my sims.  In P3D v5.3, I can not...if another system can...and has the resources, then of course...carry on...

I only have deleted anything under the Orbx Central GLOBAL folder...but have all my airports and all my regions...PNW...North this...South that, Alaska...all of it still installed. For the rest of the world...P3D's new default scenery is just doing a fine 'immersion' job to keep me flying and happy.  So, for myself...a total win/win, here...

Edited December 5, 20214 yr by Sesquashtoo

6 minutes ago, Patco Lch said:

This is extremely interesting. I think I’ll give it a try. Can always just reinstall Global if I don’t like it.

How about ORBX airports such as KSAN. Will they still be usable? There’s also many ORBX freeware airports.

Patco..EVERYTHING is usable...I still have every Orbx airport, and all my Regionals PNW...you know...the whole shebang...still installed. The ONLY things I took out of the mix, was anything under the GLOBAL section...and these are the actual DEFAULT trees...and they look (excuse me..---->" DAM(N) GOOD! )  🙂  Great detail, ..great auto-gen and even I am enjoying all the churches (I can go to 'Mass' by just flying over them and wagging the wings...")  🙂  All is great...and SO SMOOTH...a keeper.  If Orbx optimizes any content...I will of course slap it back in...but for now...I ain't CRYING flying over such as this...at the settings you see me run... No sir!  

Ses

Edited December 5, 20214 yr by Sesquashtoo