Beechcraft Model 17 Staggerwing - Available now

[ryanbatc 13,047]

54 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

So I bought it and kind of disappointed. During climb there is absolutely no need for right rudder because Carenado Beech is not affected by P factor or torque. Also there is no way to use autopilot via default binding keys. It's just not there. Sure beautiful texture and model, great for AI aircraft otherwise waste of money. 

Bummer.  I also saw that you cannot remove the spars in the cockpit like you could in their p3d versions.  I get why it's there but sometimes it's nice to hide that stuff

[vgbaron 3,724]

Well, I bought it and took a flight from KBUR-KMRY.  Once at altitude, needed nothing but a tweak of the trim every now and then to keep her going. It was fun to fly and looks beautiful. I had occasion many years ago to take a ride in one and this one brings back positive memories.

I'd say it was $$ well spent - not perfect but well worth the money.

[Matchstick 1,905]

1 hour ago, sd_flyer said:

So I bought it and kind of disappointed. During climb there is absolutely no need for right rudder because Carenado Beech is not affected by P factor or torque. Also there is no way to use autopilot via default binding keys. It's just not there. Sure beautiful texture and model, great for AI aircraft otherwise waste of money. 

Was there a particular reason you were expecting there to be an AP in the aircraft ?

[MrBitstFlyer 3,897]

Most of this aircraft is beautiful - apart from the tail.  The whole aircraft looks sleek, but the tail looks out of place, like they had a spare something they glued on the back 🙂

[andy1252 4,000]

1 hour ago, sd_flyer said:

So I bought it and kind of disappointed. During climb there is absolutely no need for right rudder because Carenado Beech is not affected by P factor or torque. Also there is no way to use autopilot via default binding keys. It's just not there. Sure beautiful texture and model, great for AI aircraft otherwise waste of money. 

Well, that's an opinion, I guess.

Myself, I've been hoping this would become available in MSFS. For me, "beautiful texture and model" and "waste of money" just don't belong in the same sentence. Bought it, pootled about in it for an hour or so already, and love it. Looking forward to some more of the P3D version repaints being recreated for it too.

Looks and sounds great, and doesn't need any technical knowledge to fly it (P factor? is that because it doesn't have an on-board latrine?) - perfick!

[blueshark747 1,848]

The Alabeo Staggerwing left a bad taste in my mouth from FSX. It felt dull and lifeless in the air and the sounds were bleh. I remember just being completely turned off from flying it again. 
 

Edited March 2, 2022 by blueshark747

[Waldo Pepper 1,953]

1 hour ago, ryanbatcund said:

Bummer.  I also saw that you cannot remove the spars in the cockpit like you could in their p3d versions.  I get why it's there but sometimes it's nice to hide that stuff

Hitting space bar puts them below your FOV,  but then you lose sight of the 6 pack.

Edited March 2, 2022 by Waldo Pepper

[Romeo_Tango 143]

25 minutes ago, andy1252 said:

Well, that's an opinion, I guess.

Myself, I've been hoping this would become available in MSFS. For me, "beautiful texture and model" and "waste of money" just don't belong in the same sentence. Bought it, pootled about in it for an hour or so already, and love it. Looking forward to some more of the P3D version repaints being recreated for it too.

Looks and sounds great, and doesn't need any technical knowledge to fly it (P factor? is that because it doesn't have an on-board latrine?) - perfick!

Reason why some 'Top', developers seem happy releasing 'sub par' products.

[CLE_AA-5B_GrummanTiger 168]

1 hour ago, Matchstick said:

Was there a particular reason you were expecting there to be an AP in the aircraft ?

I know I wasn't really expecting autopilot if they wanted to be true to the source. I was thankful to hear that she's very gentle in cruise and just needs steady but not intense attention to keep her trimmed. I don't mind learning how to fly VOR to VOR, there's something fun about that instead of just sitting around and letting AP do the job for you (nothing wrong with that either! I do it all the time).

[Waldo Pepper 1,953]

 Still,  these aircraft will start getting old real quick if Asobo doesn't start including manuals and opening CFG files so the community can refine aircraft themselves.   There's so much potential that needs to be tapped.   

Models don't really engage my long term attention span unless there's a bit of depth or complexity to the systems.

[Waldo Pepper 1,953]

Probably show up here,  if one ever does.

https://www.flightsimulator.com/aircraft-manuals/

[Matchstick 1,905]

Curious if anyone else had checked the fuel consumption of the module in cruise against the PoH.

I had a quick check earlier and it seemed much higher than the book figure but I definitely can't rule out I hadn't get something wrong.

[andy1252 4,000]

2 hours ago, Waldo Pepper said:

these aircraft will start getting old real quick if Asobo doesn't start including manuals and opening CFG files

Not 100% sure but I don't believe Carenado has ever bothered with manuals for their aircraft? I certainly don't remember ever getting manuals for anything of theirs that I bought for P3D or XP. Not a major issue for someone like me, a non-procedural flyer, but I guess an annoyance for the serious flyers - although in those cases I assume the official aircraft manufacturers' manuals would be online somewhere?

[Waldo Pepper 1,953]

So far their MSFS birds have had documents.  https://www.carenado.com/sitecarenado/product-category/msfs2020/

[sd_flyer 6,093]

4 hours ago, Matchstick said:

Was there a particular reason you were expecting there to be an AP in the aircraft ?

Because of range. if one flying legs longer than two hours in MSFS it totally make sense. Also Carenado chose put digital engine analyzer to the cockpit. They could have retrofitted default autopilot and it wouldn't cost them a thing