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Do you still buy payware sceneries-airports

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2 hours ago, vin747 said:

I don't mind buying small payware airports (single runway airports) but I resist buying large mega hubs.. not because of fps.. but because MSFS still does not have basic intelligent AI behavior, still waiting for dual jetway connections (a must for large mega hubs), GSX, SODE etc.. all of these are sorely missed in a mega hub.. even with AIG, AI behavior is too clumsy that I turn it off and go with static AI.. this looks ok for small airports but is eerily quiet on larger hubs.. so that's the reason I fly only to GA or small airports.. 

AIG/PSXT/RealTraffic will give you all traffic at the real airport.

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5 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

I am happy with the default airports. Of the time I am using the sim, about 1% of it as at an airport, the rest of the time I am flying from one to the next one.

I have all the Orbx/Burning Blue Designs and Neils Farmstrips for the UK.  Every couple of miles there's an airfield to look at 🙂

CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D  RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090
Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440
Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD 
External Storage Three 4Tb HDs

10 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

AIG/PSXT/RealTraffic will give you all traffic at the real airport.

Did you read what he wrote?

For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.

17 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

Did you read what he wrote?

Yes. 

He mentioned MSFS AI Is poor plus he mentioned AIG, so I assume he is referring to AIG AI traffic.  With PSXT & Real traffic,  every aircraft seen is doing what the real aircraft is doing.  This suggestion may make traffic at large airports more palatable for him - he didn't specifically say he had tried PSXT/AIG, hence my suggestion.

Perhaps in future replies you could be a little more specific with what you think was misunderstood?

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Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440
Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD 
External Storage Three 4Tb HDs

3 hours ago, FBW737 said:

Well for a start you can have a file tree to categorize you addons. you can turn addons on/off with a check mark in a box. you can completely empty you community folder with a couple of mouse click and put everything back the same way. I have about 150 addons in the community folder. Addons linker helps me to manage them very easily compared to if they were just dumped in the community folder.

Hmm...thanks for the clarification but at this point I don't see any need to categorize or turn addons on/off or manage anything.  I think if I suffered from slow loading times it might make sense to quickly find and disable a bundle of addons, but from your description for me it would be an exercise in unnecessary file management.  But truly--thanks again.

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

I only have the PNS 50 in the community folder so no management tool is needed here.

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If only to illustrate that we're all different, I'll stick my two penn'orth in here.

I just checked my spreadsheet (sad, eh?) and I've bought just under 450 payware addons, mostly scenery of course, although there are a bunch of aircraft in there. Add I also have a similar number of freeware addons, mostly via flightsim.to. Been stung a couple of times, buying stuff that is just not up to the quality of the sales pix or vids, but most of it I don't regret.

I have no desire to figure out the intricacies of controlling the likes of a big tube liner, and I'm not even that fussed about flying something like the various Cub derivatives "properly". But I do love to maybe hover in the H135/145, or pootle slowly in the Grravel, or perhaps float around with the converted Paramotor, across and around both major airports / cities and out-of-the-way little airstrips all over the place. I probably spend as much time with the drone camera as I do in a vehicle of any sort.

And yes, the default environment is fantastic, I have a couple of airports that I bought (KATL springs to mind) that I subsequently removed as the MS/Asobo upgrade for it was better than the add-on. But there's no reason not to embellish it even further if that's your thing. As well as the basic airports / cityscapes sort of thing, I've bought packages for bridges, coastline fixes, trees, seasons, even birds. plus of course there are things like Henrik's ships and various other ship/boat related addons. I love being able to take off from a very swish Southend airport (EGMC), fly over a PG accurate Southend town (now City - who'd have thought?), out over the pier and land on or buzz around any one of a variety of aircraft carriers just off the end of the pier (thanks, Superspud!)

And boy, am I grateful for the Addons Linker!

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2 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Yes. 

He mentioned MSFS AI Is poor plus he mentioned AIG, so I assume he is referring to AIG AI traffic.  With PSXT & Real traffic,  every aircraft seen is doing what the real aircraft is doing.  This suggestion may make traffic at large airports more palatable for him - he didn't specifically say he had tried PSXT/AIG, hence my suggestion.

Perhaps in future replies you could be a little more specific with what you think was misunderstood?

Ah ok now I understand what you meant. Sorry, I am the one who misunderstood, shame on me!

For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.

Currently , I am at 43 payware airports for MSFS.  Mostly major airports in the US and Canada as I usually am a tubeliner pilot. But for GA flying, the smaller default airports are fine for me.

All from SimAddons, Airworthy Designs, Flightbeam, FSDreamteam, Flytampa, LatinVFR, Zudios, Orbx, Drzewiecki Designs, Imaginesim, FSimStudios, FeelThere, FSFScenerybuilders, Roman Design and Axonos

Flytampa CYYZ was my latest purchase. Happy about that, as its my VA main hub.

Also use addon linker. Helps keep them all organized. 

Night lighting is not the best with the default airports. 

Rick 

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12 hours ago, bendead said:

In a laptop which can rapidly thermal throttle if my AC is not set to north pole setting it's kind of sad.

https://img.bfmtv.com/c/0/708/387/a3e8c7881ae487f0bb61a50a6de8a.jpg

But will I buy the same kind of computer in the future? Absolutely, it's just too practical when you move a lot.

  • Repaste the CPU with a good quality thermal paste like Noctua NH2. Do not use liquid metal. (be aware you may also need to replace the GPU thermal pad at the same time)
  • sit the laptop on one of those USB powered cooling pads
  • consider undervolting - many overclock fans find the idea of undervolting heretical but if your limitation is thermal throttling undervolting can actually improve performance and stability
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28 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:
  • Repaste the CPU with a good quality thermal paste like Noctua NH2. Do not use liquid metal. (be aware you may also need to replace the GPU thermal pad at the same time)
  • sit the laptop on one of those USB powered cooling pads
  • consider undervolting - many overclock fans find the idea of undervolting heretical but if your limitation is thermal throttling undervolting can actually improve performance and stability

Thanks for your post,

- I changed the paste last summer for some Grizzly Kryonaut, that kept my CPU under 99-98C. I really wanted to use liquid metal but the company who custom build my laptop told me that I would need to change it every 2-3 month, so no go since one day I could make a mess.

- I also have a cooling pad, a nice one with 3 120mm fan, it's working a bit, but I have 4 spare EDF turbine, about 10N.m each 😁 lying around, could use them with some 3d printing, but the noise will be a nightmare.

- always wanted to try under*volting the CPU, but I am worried since there is no reset bios switch on my laptop, I really don't want to brick it. Could I do it safely with Intel extreme utility and come back to previous setting without issue?

4 minutes ago, bendead said:

that kept my CPU under 99-98C.

...that is sad!  I have the same CPU, aircooled, all cores at 4.9gHz, rarely gets to 55C!  But...it's not quite as portable!

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

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1 minute ago, Noel said:

...that is sad!  I have the same CPU, aircooled, all cores at 4.9gHz, rarely gets to 55C!  But...it's not quite as portable!

It is, I should have selected a normal 9900, it was 65w TDP

1 hour ago, bendead said:

 

- always wanted to try under*volting the CPU, but I am worried since there is no reset bios switch on my laptop, I really don't want to brick it. Could I do it safely with Intel extreme utility and come back to previous setting without issue?

I just undervolted in BIOS using  a small negative voltage offset.  There is also software that you can use, I believe Throttlestop is one example but never tried it. 

Note an undervolted CPU needs to be stability tested at full load as usual but also with no load. Undervolting too much can lead to crashing at no load even if the CPU is performing fine at full load.

You should explore your BIOS and see just what else is available. You may for example be able to set a lower PL1. If it is a gaming laptop it may also have multicore enhancement enabled which will let it turbo on all cores simultaneously. You do not need that for MSFS and can turn it off.

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25 minutes ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

I just undervolted in BIOS using  a small negative voltage offset.  There is also software that you can use, I believe Throttlestop is one example but never tried it. 

Note an undervolted CPU needs to be stability tested at full load as usual but also with no load. Undervolting too much can lead to crashing at no load even if the CPU is performing fine at full load.

You should explore your BIOS and see just what else is available. You may for example be able to set a lower PL1. If it is a gaming laptop it may also have multicore enhancement enabled which will let it turbo on all cores simultaneously. You do not need that for MSFS and can turn it off.

Thanks, I started to play a bit, my BIOS is pretty old, I can disable PL2 which go to 165w and can only modify PL1, right now it's at 120w, what value should I set it? 95W?

I have all the info on Intel XTU

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So I should also change the core voltage offset to something like -0.050 to -0.100, what is the limit I should not go over?

Should I change anything else?

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