I have TM Hotas Warthog controller which have two throttle levers. If a plane got more than two engines like for example the Concorde there is an issue. I don't have throttle levers for all engines. How do you resolve this issue ? In P3D I can assign a button to select a specific engine or all engines with a single throttle control. As far I can see this is not possible in MSFS. So what options do we have here ?

2 hours ago, jfri said:

In P3D I can assign a button to select a specific engine or all engines with a single throttle control. As far I can see this is not possible in MSFS. So what options do we have here ?

Yes you can throttle up all engines at the same time. Command should be just something like "throttle axis" without any specific engine designation. In fact I've been using it for the 747.

Edited May 8, 20224 yr by Fiorentoni

You can assign more than one command onto the same axis. 1,2,3, or a dozen commands!

For the warthog throttle axis you can assign 1 and 3 or 1 and 2. For warthog 2nd throttle axis you can assign 2 and 4, or 3 and 4. Save that new profile for 4 engine planes.

For 1 or 2 engine planes use your old profile.

You don't have to redo all the other commands in the profile. Just duplicate your present profile and change only the throttle axis and save this new profile and call it  4 Engines or whatever. Now you have 2 profiles that are identical in all ways, except for the throttle axis.

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2 hours ago, Fiorentoni said:

Yes you can throttle up all engines at the same time. Command should be just something like "throttle axis" without any specific engine designation. In fact I've been using it for the 747.

That might be possible with the default 747. But in more study level planes like DCS Concorde or the Just Flight 146 could there not be a need to adjust just one single engine at a time.

46 minutes ago, Fielder said:

You can assign more than one command onto the same axis. 1,2,3, or a dozen commands!

For the warthog throttle axis you can assign 1 and 3 or 1 and 2. For warthog 2nd throttle axis you can assign 2 and 4, or 3 and 4. Save that new profile for 4 engine planes.

For 1 or 2 engine planes use your old profile.

You don't have to redo all the other commands in the profile. Just duplicate your present profile and change only the throttle axis and save this new profile and call it  4 Engines or whatever. Now you have 2 profiles that are identical in all ways, except for the throttle axis.

Then you control two engines with one lever which don't seem likely to be needed

1 hour ago, jfri said:

That might be possible with the default 747. But in more study level planes like DCS Concorde or the Just Flight 146 could there not be a need to adjust just one single engine at a time.

Why would you need to adjust one single engine in flight? There are no failures in the Concorde or 146. Anyway you can use the TARGET software from Thrustmaster and add a modifier to the throttle axis, so that e.g. SHIFT + left throttle will move engine 3 (instead of one).

2 hours ago, jfri said:

But in more study level planes like DCS Concorde or the Just Flight 146 could there not be a need to adjust just one single engine at a time.

If you want a separate axis for each engine in a 4-holer, you need a 4-axis throttle. 

2 hours ago, Fiorentoni said:

Why would you need to adjust one single engine in flight? There are no failures in the Concorde or 146. Anyway you can use the TARGET software from Thrustmaster and add a modifier to the throttle axis, so that e.g. SHIFT + left throttle will move engine 3 (instead of one).

So there are no need to set the throttles different in Concorde or 146 under any circumstances ? In for example the B17 in P3D there was a need for such thing.

If you set the left wing engines to one axis and the right wing engines to the other axis you get asymmetric thrust control I suppose.  No idea if asymmetric thrust was used or even an approved procedure in the real life Concorde.

Realistic startup may require individual throttle control no idea.

Other than that, the other obvious reason to control engines separately is engine failure.

 

I've never had a problem that required adjusting just one throttle, I had one plane that was about 50 rpms out of synch with the other 3, but I adjusted that with mixture,  using mouse for that operation. 

Using AAO (Axis and Ohs) you can setup an 'Assigned Combo' . To make the program, is easy: you just tick the assigned combo box. Then push a keyboard key or a controller button and AAO then makes that key or button your 'combo' for that axis, say throttle 1. Then you move an Axis lever (such as a throttle lever) and then AOO makes that your controller lever for that throttle 1 axis. You also make another assignment with the same controller lever not using a combo (to move all the sim levers together).

To move only the sim throttle 1 lever you push the key or button and then move the controller lever. To move a different in sim throttle, you push a different key or button and move the same controller lever. If you push no button and move the lever, then all throttles move together to match the controller lever.

It seems tricky to setup at first but trial and error while observing the in sim lever movements show you which boxes in AAO to tick to make the levers move as you want them to do.

CH have 6 levers and I suppose there is going to be a six engine plane (according to a recent Q&A hint).

About half the cost of a Honeycomb.

https://www.amazon.com/CH-Products-Throttle-Quadrant-300-133/dp/B0002A59Z4/

 

9 hours ago, jfri said:

So there are no need to set the throttles different in Concorde or 146 under any circumstances ? In for example the B17 in P3D there was a need for such thing.

I don‘t think so, no. These are jets, you start the engines one by one (can do with the mouse), then you move them all together to change thrust in the flight, and then you turn them off again one by one after parking (with the mouse).
The only time you have to move single engines to set the thrust is when you have an engine failure and turn off one of them. Oh and maybe single engine taxi, but I don‘t think you do this on the Concorde…