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X-Plane 12 Development Update – May 19, 2022

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4 hours ago, jarmstro said:

Once XP offers better value for money I'll be back

Hi @jarmstro!  Hope you are well!  Value for money is quite a personal thing.  You and I differ on that one (and a few other points...LOL!).  However, while XP hits that mark far better than MSFS for me, I still use both and enjoy both.  

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is there any news about online stream for bing or google maps? or ortho will be used?

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On 5/23/2022 at 12:25 AM, mSparks said:

    I think its worth remembering, that aircraft built for XP10 very often require significant maintenance to work well in XP11, I dont think therefore I'm really saying anything I shouldn't when I say aircraft that fly perfectly in XP11 are going to be different - and therefore "not perfect" - in XP12. Austin has been a busy boy.

Depends on the ortho, the lvl16 cloudless ortho I use is based on the sentinel 2 dataset which is ccbync licenced and perfectly legal.

the USGS ortho by forkboy is based on public domain data and also 100% legit.

Lots of the others (e.g. UK data in the UK) is also fine

bing and google are slightly sketchy, in that they "may" break the end user licence in the less democratic and consumer unfriendly countries like many US states, in the same way you arent allowed to play a music CD or youtube music at your birthday party at home. not "illegal" - no one cares, but too risky to build a business around.

but google even says:

https://www.google.com/intl/en-GB_ALL/permissions/geoguidelines/

Generally speaking, as long as you’re following our Terms of Service and you’re attributing properly, you can use our maps and imagery. In fact, we love seeing creative applications of Google Maps, Google Earth and Street View.

hello, Can you send a link for lvl 16 cloudless map?

C. Uygar

Aircraft Maint. Engineer. at LTFJ

1 hour ago, spitzer45 said:

hello, Can you send a link for lvl 16 cloudless map?

 

 

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6 hours ago, spitzer45 said:

is there any news about online stream for bing or google maps? or ortho will be used?

No streaming of orthos in XP12.

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23 hours ago, mSparks said:

 

 

So you have to edit manually all these pictures, right?

 

These sentinel 2 cloudless maps is downloadable only for zoom level 13? I think that these ZL13 maps are bad for both ifr and vfr.

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C. Uygar

Aircraft Maint. Engineer. at LTFJ

50 minutes ago, spitzer45 said:

So you have to edit manually all these pictures, right?

 

These sentinel 2 cloudless maps is downloadable only for zoom level 13? I think that these ZL13 maps are bad for both ifr and vfr.

No, its computational, based on sentinel and other data sources. 

Possibly end up some kind of XP12 product, but limited interest from my side going through the motions to package and distribute such a huge amount of data, because the sentinel licence prohibits selling the data itself.

Also, as I said in that thread, hopefully the XP12 scenery recut will make it obsolete.

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The screenies I have seen of XP12 already look better than P3D 64 bit versions all doctored up with Orbx and other enhancements. The sky looks better also the P3D 5 latest under ASN control. My hope is that accuracy follows appearance where I can VFR my own region and recognize the terrain and towns as what they are supposed to be. And roads and streams are correct. 

As for aircraft I am happy with a fully functional, accurate flight model Skylane, a Bonanza for a Complex, and a Baron for a twin. I am working toward a PPL in a Skylane. I sim what I may have an opportunity to fly IRL and the hangers at SEG have planes as I mentioned and really nice owners. I will never get near a 737 or Airbus flightdeck or any corporate jet.

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