June 30, 20223 yr 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
June 30, 20223 yr Probably because MSFS is still a game/sim like others and the video you showed is real life. What's the point. Edited June 30, 20223 yr by jbdbow1970
June 30, 20223 yr Author Sounds in the sim, no bass response. How difficult is that to produce? 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
June 30, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Fielder said: Sounds in the sim, no bass response. How difficult is that to produce? Buy a bigger subwoofer and turn it up.
June 30, 20223 yr The audio is shifted from high to low by the Doppler Effect in this video -- by the audio wavelengths changing from compressed (while the plane is heading toward you) to elongated (while the plane is moving away from you). You're not going to experience this effect simply watching your plane from behind in non-Doppler Effect chase mode or drone mode. Processor: Intel i9-13900KF 5.8GHz 24-Core, Graphics Processor: Nvidia RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6, System Memory: 64GB High Performance DDR5 SDRAM 5600MHz, Operating System: Windows 11 Home Edition, Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX, LGA 1700, CPU Cooling: Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling, RGB and LCD Display, Chassis Fans: Corsair Low Decibel, Addressable RGB Fans, Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Fully Modular Ultra-Low-Noise Platinum ATX 1000 Watt, Primary Storage: 2TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, Secondary Storage: 1TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, VR Headset: Meta Quest 2, Primary Display: SONY 4K Bravia 75-inch, 2nd Display: SONY 4K Bravia 43-inch, 3rd Display: Vizio 28-inch, 1920x1080. Controller: Xbox Controller attached to PC via USB.
June 30, 20223 yr Author Yes, a good point, David. I have hi fi headphones with a flat frequency response. I can jazz the bass way up with the ever popular equalizer APO, their standard 31 band equalizing levers which can make it sound somewhat more real. But apparently my sound is still below par of what others are experiencing as they are quite happy. 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
June 30, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, Fielder said: Yes, a good point, David. I have hi fi headphones with a flat frequency response. I can jazz the bass way up with the ever popular equalizer APO, their standard 31 band equalizing levers which can make it sound somewhat more real. But apparently my sound is still below par of what others are experiencing as they are quite happy. I don't think judging from a headset makes much sense here. I have a subwoofer and when I push the throttle forward in the PMDG 737, stuff on my desk starts vibrating 🙂 Laminar Research customer -- Asobo/MS customer -- not an X-Aviation customer - or am I? 😉
June 30, 20223 yr Author 1 hour ago, rka said: I don't think judging from a headset makes much sense here. I have a subwoofer and when I push the throttle forward in the PMDG 737, stuff on my desk starts vibrating 🙂 Well I was hasty, having forgotten the excellent audio from AzurPoly planes. Neither Milviz, nor PMDG, nor Carenado planes are up to that standard thru the same hi fi headset I use. I never use communication headsets, only very good hi fi music phones in flighjtsims. Thu these hi fi equalized headphones the linked youtube video played a higher quality sound by far than most MSFS planes. 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
June 30, 20223 yr Lack of bass frequencies is a general problem is FS addons across the platforms, I find. That's why I love the Zibo 737 in X-Plane: in the sound options in the EFB it has full EQ spectrum adjustment for the engines. I have the bass turned up high and you can feel it in your stomach!. Edited June 30, 20223 yr by JYW Bill 😎FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro9800X3D • RTX 3080 • 64GB DDR5-6000NPPL licence holder in the UK
June 30, 20223 yr Accurate reproduction of bass frequencies is no easy feat. Even if MSFS had a perfect sound generator, you would still need some very, very hi-end amplifier with lots of power and some large speakers to obtain a faithful reproduction of low frequencies at appropriate sound pressure levels. BTW: what many people think are bass frequencies are actually distortion due to final stage clipping. So, as a seasoned hi-end enthusiast, my take is that MSFS and ASOBO shouldn't be blamed. A.
June 30, 20223 yr 11 hours ago, Fielder said: Well I was hasty, having forgotten the excellent audio from AzurPoly planes. Neither Milviz, nor PMDG, nor Carenado planes are up to that standard thru the same hi fi headset I use. I never use communication headsets, only very good hi fi music phones in flighjtsims. Thu these hi fi equalized headphones the linked youtube video played a higher quality sound by far than most MSFS planes. Hi Fielder , try Active spatial sound in the options menu. I was desperate to juice up the Beech 18 too and found it better with that active in my Reverb G2. Not perfect, but better 😀
June 30, 20223 yr Author I'm off to try that. First I have to delete FS-BASE-NAV folder from Official folder or MSFS won't boot, searching for updates screen will reinstall a valid version, and then MSFS will boot fine. This happens about 1 in 15 times I boot MSFS. 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
June 30, 20223 yr 19 hours ago, Fielder said: Sounds in the sim, no bass response. How difficult is that to produce? Iff you are using an equalizer, maybe try reducing the middle frequencies a bit and see iff that helps to boost lower frequencies. And then reduce the higher frequencies a bit as well. It often works on audio tracks but not sure about a flight simulator, because it is more subtle i think. Quick fyi edit to mention max settings will never work on anything, also preset spatial settings use stereo field adjustments that are often unusable 🙂 ( for one reason alone, they quite literally do not equate to what the end user is hearing and/or there speaker/headphone systems ) Edited June 30, 20223 yr by icewater5
June 30, 20223 yr Author Looks like I already had 'spatial' set to on. The sound sliders were on max and Equilizer APO was cranked up. Pallid sound. But then I used Ear Trumpet app to adjust volume of just the MSFS program , which is different than the MSFS sliders inside the sim, and the sounds are now great. I'm not sure what I had set wrong, but sounds are much better than before. I can't say the Staggerwing (Beech 17) sounds inferior to youtube videos any more. I think the problem was I had Ear Trumpet set wrong a few weeks ago. 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
June 30, 20223 yr Author I thought everybody talking about their great sound in the sim were exaggerating, and that theirs sounded no better than mine. I was wrong, LOL. 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
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