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The latest BETA today costs me between 10 and 12 FPS, much higher VRAM and brings stutters with DX12.

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Using a i9 10900k

RTX3090

Varjo Aero

No XR Tookit

Windows 11 fresh install 2 days ago

Fresh install MSFS 2 days ago (everything!)

The sim is in VR barely usable this way.

Reported this of course and now hoping to see some feedback and solutions.

10 cores are having verty high spikes!

Marcus


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1 hour ago, Baber20 said:

HDR still doesn't work.

HDR does work, alt and enter the screen, then drag the window around for a second and then alt and enter back to full screen. Voila, HDR now active. I have to do this each time. 

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53 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

It's amazing the progress that is being made with MSFS.  I feel a few years ago, flight simulation was in the dark ages.  A few years ago, the tech for slight simulation was so outdated, and the progress was moving inch by inch, every year, with barely any progress at all.

Then MSFS comes out, and progress in flight simulation leaps out the window.  Progress in flight simulation isn't being measured in inches now, it's being measured in miles.

Well, it wouldn't be a Abrams post without hyperbolic cheerleading, but you do realize we're getting super-excited about a beta version of DX12 in MSFS, something which your "Dark Ages" sims had or matched a long time ago? (P3D DX12, X-Plane Vulcan). Yes, both of those sims did progress solidly over the years. No, it wasn't actually a "dark ages" for those of us who were actually using flight simulators during that time.

MSFS has been out for 2 years now, and progress for most of that period has been S-L-O-W, despite what you claim ("2 steps forward, 1 step back"). And there's plenty of basic features that are still missing and which shouldn't be. MSFS still lacks some things that 2006's FSX had.

I'm enjoying the SU10 Beta, but I think we can enjoy the very nice graphics without grossly exaggerating the failings of other sims that many of us spent hundreds of hours flying.

I will say that I'm impressed with the SU10 Beta and it's updates, which makes me wonder if the Asobo team is finally hitting its stride.

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, OzWhitey said:

DX12 in MSFS, something which your "Dark Ages" sims had or matched a long time ago? (P3D DX12, X-Plane Vulcan).

DX12 is not automatic and not the same DX12 in other sims, It is a library, with lots of options for the developers to choose from. you could in theory re-compile FSX against the DX12 API and it would still look the same "Dark Ages" as with DX 9, unless the developers implement all those fantastic graphic engine capabilities that only MSFS provides. proof: P3Dv5, compiled using DX12, and still looks like "Dark Ages".

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How’s the blurry screens with DX12, are they fixed?

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1 minute ago, omarsmak30 said:

How’s the blurry screens with DX12, are they fixed?

No. 


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So I tried the PMDG 737 at KJFK on the ground at Gate F7 on both DX11 and DX12 Beta with DLSS Balanced and I get 0 difference in FPS


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Where there also content (world) Updates today? Maybe I have missed them ...and that causes my issues. 

 


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19 minutes ago, fogboundturtle said:

So I tried the PMDG 737 at KJFK on the ground at Gate F7 on both DX11 and DX12 Beta with DLSS Balanced and I get 0 difference in FPS

And?

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51 minutes ago, mpo910 said:

The latest BETA today costs me between 10 and 12 FPS, much higher VRAM and brings stutters with DX12.

Be aware that new shaders are being built. I suggest fly around and restart the game.

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5 minutes ago, roi1862 said:

Be aware that new shaders are being built. I suggest fly around and restart the game.

I did a dx shader clean up

Flew about 30 min.

This included two sim starts

This was at non demanding area (LIRN)

And the performance loss is heavier at ground level interestingly

I'm the air it's 6 fps average less

Stutters are present (when cpu spikes)

No AIGAIM used

 

 

 

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Does the download take a while to start it's been over 10 minutes and it won't start downloading.  It says 0.0% downloaded.

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Smoothest flight yet in this beta!, PMDG 737 KLAS -KDEN Both payware- RTX 2080 Super, i10900 CPU- Mostly High settings few Ultra- Clouds. RS set to 100. Vsync @ 50% of Monitor-so around 70 FPS. DX-11. No stutters or GPU spikes at all. From start to finish smooth as glass.

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3 minutes ago, Todd2 said:

Does the download take a while to start it's been over 10 minutes and it won't start downloading.  It says 0.0% downloaded.

Not for me, it started immediately. Steam version.


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