FSLTL - live traffic finally released

[Greazer 1,321]

With AIG I was often waiting at a gate before a fully loaded airliner would buzz the airport at low altitude. Haven't seen this with FSLTL.

[pete_auau 1,159]

took the  plunge  and  installed it  works  great,  so far  havnt  tested  it  other  airports  as of  yet  but at  ymml   at least the planes  landed  and  took  off  from  the  same  runway

[mrcultureshock 75]

I did another test at KSFO. Here are the results:

- Most planes were parked in their correct gates. The rest are more erratic (Iberia parked at the United domestic terminal for example).

- The airplane models look great!

- Only 28L and 28R were used for takeoff and landing, which is not the case in real life.

- There were many go arounds.

- Some airplanes got stuck during taxi.

I think FSLTL looks great, but it's not ready for primetime. MSFS desperately needs the Justflight Ai traffic program.

[pete_auau 1,159]

1 hour ago, mrcultureshock said:

MSFS desperately needs the Justflight Ai traffic program

and  what makes you think  they wont  have  the  same  issues

[AnkH 2,267]

6 hours ago, Greazer said:

Guys. the ease of installation, reduced disk space and stability are worth the price of admission alone.

If 20GB more or less disk space maes a difference, you should get a bigger SSD... Ease of installation sure, but if you already have all of AIG, not much of an argument 🤣 Stability for sure, but this is also a completely different way of injector (basically an "inject and forget" approach).

[Alvega 2,124]

19 minutes ago, pete_auau said:

and  what makes you think  they wont  have  the  same  issues

Specially because the issues he pointed out are due to the addon using the default AI system and not created by the addon per se. Unless the Just Flight Traffic program doesn't use the default AI system (which I doubt) it will have the same problems.

[wim123 763]

1 hour ago, mrcultureshock said:

I did another test at KSFO. Here are the results:

- Most planes were parked in their correct gates. The rest are more erratic (Iberia parked at the United domestic terminal for example).

- The airplane models look great!

- Only 28L and 28R were used for takeoff and landing, which is not the case in real life.

- There were many go arounds.

- Some airplanes got stuck during taxi.

I think FSLTL looks great, but it's not ready for primetime. MSFS desperately needs the Justflight Ai traffic program.

these issues are msfs issues, all traffic addons will have these.

[pmplayer 9,469]

At first place Asobo has to fix the Traffic issues than all the Dev's can work on that .

If these issues are still not gone Just Flight Traffic can't make it better.

I assume this is why their long awaited Traffic Addon is still not released yet because they hope for a fix from Asobo...

cheers 😉

[Bernard Ducret 790]

3 hours ago, mwilk said:

I live in the US but I fly in Europe a lot. To have live traffic I'll have to do my flights before early afternoon. I guess I can use AIG for evening flights.

This is why we should be careful not to ditch AIG all together because these two excellent software can serve two different purposes: FSLTL whenever we fly on actual time (replaces advantageously Real World Traffic in MSFS) and AIGTC when we fly at a different time than actual. For example, I fly a lot in Asia and live in Europe, so I would struggle using actual time, thus AIG is necessary in such situations.

Furthermore, I noticed yesterday that some airports were not showing a true picture with FSLTL: LFPO where I had only a handful of aircraft for the whole airport (JetStream addon) and none at the West terminal, at LSGG, I found three TAP aircraft at various gates, something that is unlikely to ever happen (flights to LPPT and LPPR are not at the same time and you would never have more than one TAP aircraft on the tarmac).

So, I will keep both and shall use them according to their respective strengths, and I only have the AIG models on my HD. Thank you to both teams for outstanding products!

[kiek 1,215]

12 minutes ago, wim123 said:

these issues are msfs issues, all traffic addons will have these.

Not all, PSXT does not have these issues 😉

 

 

Edited September 30, 2022 by kiek

[pmplayer 9,469]

5 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

 

 

  

But also missing a ton of airlines and several aircraft models.

Come on, it just the first release, give them a chance to update, i remenber how mutch trouble AIG had after first release - and still have..

cheers 😉

[motishow 123]

7 minutes ago, kiek said:

Not all, PSXT does not have these issues 😉

 

 

Yes but is more expensive per year than the entire game price.

Edited September 30, 2022 by motishow

[Alvega 2,124]

7 minutes ago, kiek said:

Not all, PSXT does not have these issues 😉

 

 

No, it has others, like planes jumping around instead of moving smoothly and crossing the grass when taxiing and so on.

[steve 86 287]

2 hours ago, mrcultureshock said:

I did another test at KSFO. Here are the results:

- Most planes were parked in their correct gates. The rest are more erratic (Iberia parked at the United domestic terminal for example).

- The airplane models look great!

- Only 28L and 28R were used for takeoff and landing, which is not the case in real life.

- There were many go arounds.

- Some airplanes got stuck during taxi.

I think FSLTL looks great, but it's not ready for primetime. MSFS desperately needs the Justflight Ai traffic program.

All your problems are down to the base sim just flight will have the same problems, 

Only way just flight ai will be better than FSLTL is if they have more models and liverys. 

[kiek 1,215]

17 minutes ago, motishow said:

Yes but is more expensive per year than the entire game price.

real live traffic does not come free ...