DisplayPort 2.1: 4K @ 480 Hz, which doesn't mean anything re. fps in games, it is just the max. refresh rate at which it can drive a monitor of same refresh rate - you could also show a still image at 480 Hz if the monitor supports that. looks much nicer than a still image at 60 Hz.😀 

Edited November 3, 20223 yr by turbomax

No comparisons to the 4090/4080 in the presentation at all... ( eyebrows raised ..)

Apart from the increase in memory It felt like a nothing burger to me. The pricing is an advantage but the jury is still out on the performance compared to Nvidias latest. Also come on with the paper launch ... FSR 3.0 next year ?? may as well not have said anything. 

2 minutes ago, Maxis said:

No comparisons to the 4090/4080 in the presentation at all... ( eyebrows raised ..)

Not really needed if they compare it to their own RX 6950 XT card. The maths can be done by anyone else...

Prices seem pretty good. 

$999 for RX 7900 XTX 24 GB

$899 for RX 7900 XT 20 GB

Scott Herkelman called it the fastest gaming GPU i the world. 

FSR3 (DLSS3 / Frame Gen competitor tech) coming in 2023. 

I might be tempted to sell my RTX 3090 and buy an RX 7900 XTX, especially if Nvidia keeps holding back DLSS3 / FG from 2000 and 3000 series customers. 

Edited November 3, 20223 yr by Republic3D

3 minutes ago, AnkH said:

Not really needed if they compare it to their own RX 6950 XT card. The maths can be done by anyone else...

They are doing a presentation .. When im presenting  against a competing product i make the difference obvious.. Not implore my audience to draw for their calculators ... 

For me the jury is still out until SOMEONE can do some actual benchmarking .. 

Edited November 3, 20223 yr by Maxis

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39 minutes ago, AnkH said:

if they compare it to their own RX 6950 XT card. The maths can be done by anyone else...

preliminary estimate based on 4090 being 70% faster than the RX6950 XT

7900 XTX; 50% faster than RX6950 XT

4090 70% faster than RX6550 XT

that makes the 4090 roughly 15% faster. will have to wait and see how much that results in effective fps difference. 

total board power 350 watt, NVidia RTX 4090 FE 450 watt

Edited November 3, 20223 yr by turbomax

2 minutes ago, turbomax said:

preliminary estimate based on 4090 being 70% faster than the RX6950 XT

7900 XTX; 50% faster than RX6950 XT

4090 70% faster than RX6550 XT

that makes the 4090 roughly 15% faster. will have to wait and see how much that results in effective fps difference. 

That would be 15% faster for 60% higher price. I think we'll have to wait and see for rasterization benchmarks, and what FSR 3.0 brings to the table. 
If FSR 3.0 / Hyper-RX brings the same increase as DLSS3 / FG, and Nvidia keeps their little party trick away from 3000-series, I would be interested in swapping my RTX 3090 with an RX 7900 XTX.

Just now, Republic3D said:

Nvidia keeps their little party trick away from 3000-series

they mentioned it might perhaps be implemented eventually, but the 3090s might not be powerful enough to make sense. so it is wait and see what FSR3 brings to the table, it is obviously not yet ready for showtime otherwise they would definitely have shown it.

37 minutes ago, Republic3D said:

Prices seem pretty good. 

$999 for RX 7900 XTX 24 GB

$899 for RX 7900 XT 20 GB

They are AMD cards not the AIB Partner cards they will likely be more expensive, much like the Nvidia GPUs,

2 minutes ago, G-RFRY said:

They are AMD cards not the AIB Partner cards they will likely be more expensive, much like the Nvidia GPUs,

True, but the launch price of the RTX 4090 FE was $1599. That's 60% higher than the RX 7900 XTX.

So there is a significant difference in price regardless. 

if and by how much they can be overclocked, is left to be seen, I doubt it'd be worthwhile. the visual design does not need to be improved upon, I think it looks very stylish, better than any of the wild AIB designs.

Edited November 3, 20223 yr by turbomax

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Three 8pin connectors up to 450W.

I'm hoping they lower the price by next year, it's possible given the way things are going in the hardware market right now (we are at the start of a PC slump). PC hardware sales goes in cycles, and it's not looking good for Intel, and AMD is only barely meeting expectations because they stole market share from Intel, but overall a lot of AMD stuff is also in the decline, because the entire hardware market is entering a cyclical pause for revenue. How much this will affect GPU sales, who knows, but I don't expect this next line of GPU's to be that great in sales with them only releasing high-end $800+ cards. So I expect they will have to lower the price by Mar 2023 when the supply increases, which is usually by the end of the 1st quarter after launch (which puts it around Mar - Apr 2023 when supply gets a big increase). Unlike prior years, this time when they induce a bunch of supply into the market, the scalpers will be caught red-handed and have to dump, because there isn't enough crypto leverage or hardware demand to counter the slump in overall sales. 

This is all of course in theory, unless AMD joins Nvidia in the practice of intentional low-inventory to boost prices and keep prices artificially high, which when you have less than 5 companies in a business (here we have 2, well 3 including Intel but they don't really count for GPU's), so yes they have some market control. They can simply ignore the market and keep prices high if they so choose, so 50/50 really.

 

It doesnt really matter how fast these new AMD cards will be. The drivers are always an issue when it comes to flightsim performance. I will stick to team green.