December 7, 20223 yr On 12/5/2022 at 12:00 PM, vonduck said: Are you finding DX 12 performs better or equal to DX 11? I'm getting 54 in DX11, Ultra, VR. I have no preference yet. I my just go back to DX12 since both settings are smooth. Specs: I9-13900K, RTX 4090, 32gb Ram |Headsets: HP Reverb
December 7, 20223 yr On 12/5/2022 at 12:19 AM, turbomax said: not for Pimax Crystal, standalone inside-out tracking. that's the one I am interested in. This is interesting. Specs: I9-13900K, RTX 4090, 32gb Ram |Headsets: HP Reverb
December 7, 20223 yr Author I see some thread hijackers!! Just kidding - I'm very interested reading about your Pimax Crystal experiences. I just got the 4080 today. MASSIVE difference from my 1080 Ti in both 1440p and VR. The 4080 install was a major PITA though... getting the 3 vga cables plugged into my PSU while it was in the case was word not allowed near impossible. I had to get my daughter to help as she has smaller hands lol! I'll skip a bunch of 2d perf comparison and make an official Hardware forum post later with pics etc. But in VR I'm now running 100% render scale with mostly high settings. I did drop buildings and trees to medium and grass to off. Clouds I set to high (I want to try ultra). Initial Experience: FlyTampa KBOS, Beta C700 Longitude (new avionics) pointing at the city with PG on, and heavy scattered clouds near the surface.... 40-45 fps! Previously about 13-17 with the same settings. In flight a bit lower maybe 35-40 at 250 knots.... if I point my view/cockpit right at FT scenery. Outside of that heavy hitting area I'm seeing 60-80 fps!!! This is incredible and well worth it. (1400 USD for the GPU and 300ish for the G2.... and 2100 for my 12700K system early this year lol). Well why not, 1440p at 80 fps locked via NCP most areas....45-55 in areas like FT BOS. (In this case I now become CPU limited by my 12700K..... time for a 13900K boys LOL! | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
December 7, 20223 yr 8 hours ago, ryanbatc said: I see some thread hijackers!! here some more hijacking for your reading pleasure: "DLSS 3.0 is not supported in VR." DLSS 3.0 makes use of a new generation Optical Flow Accelerator (OFA) included in Ada Lovelace generation RTX GPUs. The new OFA is faster and more accurate than the OFA already available in previous Turing and Ampere RTX GPUs.[25] This results in DLSS 3.0 being exclusive for the RTX 4000 Series. At release, DLSS 3.0 does not work for VR displays. https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/will-dlss-3-0-be-supported-in-vr-msfs/543836/62 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_learning_super_sampling Edited December 7, 20223 yr by turbomax AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
December 7, 20223 yr 10 hours ago, ryanbatc said: The 4080 install was a major PITA though... getting the 3 vga cables plugged into my PSU while it was in the case was word not allowed near impossible. yes, best to insert the PCIe power cables on the card before installing the card into it's slot because of the 12VHPWR plug fiasco. AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
December 7, 20223 yr 23 hours ago, odourboy said: I didn't think DLSS 3 was available in VR. (But not a VR user yet so purely based on hearsay) hearsay and facts are identical in this case: "DLSS 3.0 is not supported in VR." DLSS 3.0 makes use of a new generation Optical Flow Accelerator (OFA) included in Ada Lovelace generation RTX GPUs. The new OFA is faster and more accurate than the OFA already available in previous Turing and Ampere RTX GPUs.[25] This results in DLSS 3.0 being exclusive for the RTX 4000 Series. At release, DLSS 3.0 does not work for VR displays. https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/will-dlss-3-0-be-supported-in-vr-msfs/543836/62 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_learning_super_sampling AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
December 7, 20223 yr 34 minutes ago, turbomax said: At release, DLSS 3.0 does not work for VR displays. I read this before (with regret). I still don't understand if it's impossible to implement DLSS 3.0 under VR at all or if it's just a question of time / further development. Kind regards, Michael Edited December 7, 20223 yr by pmb Intel i7-13700K / AsRock Z790 / Crucial 32 GB DDR 5 / ASUS RTX 4080OC 16GB / BeQuiet ATX 1000W / WD m.2 NVMe 2TB (System) / WD m.2 NVMe 4 TB (MSFS) / WD HDD 10 TB / XTOP+Saitek hardware panel / LG 34UM95 3440 x 1440 / HP Reverb 1 (2160x2160 per eye) / Win 11
December 7, 20223 yr Author 1 hour ago, turbomax said: yes, best to insert the PCIe power cables on the card before installing the card into it's slot because of the 12VHPWR plug fiasco. Actually they have 3x pcie cables feed into a single adapter cable which connects to the card. It was connecting the 3x pcie to my PSU that was a pain (because of right spaces hehe) | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
December 8, 20223 yr I'm stoked for your new VR setup, thanks for posting your experiences. I had the same PSU cable connection joy when I installed my 3080 ti, replacing a 1070. Ended up not worrying about its cable management which I so carefully planned for the rest of my build. Edited December 9, 20223 yr by TheFamilyMan CPU: AMD 9800X3D PBO MB +200 CO -25| Motherboard: MSI MAG X870e Tomahawk WiFi | GPU: MSI RTX 5090 Ventus 3X OC | RAM: G.Skill 2x32GB DDR5 6000 cas 30 | M.2 SSDs: Samsung 990 EVO Plus 2T, WD Black SN750 M.2 1T | Hard Drive: WD Black HDD 6T 7200 | Optical Drive: LG Bluray writer, internal | Cooling: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO | Case: Fractal Design Focus G | PSU: NZXT C1200 1200W Win 11 Pro 64|HP Reverb G2 revised VR HMD|Asus 25" IPS 2K 60Hz monitor|Saitek X52 Pro & Peddles|TIR 5 (now retired)
December 9, 20223 yr Author 4 hours ago, TheFamilyMan said: I'm stoked for your new VR setup, thanks for posting your experiences. I had the same PSU cable connection joy when I installed my 3080 ti, replacing a 1070. Ended up not worrying about its cable management which I so carefully planned for the rest of my build. Yeah I didn't have much room near the very bottom corner of my board so I just ran these cables over here.... oh well. I have a dark tempered glass case so it's not really noticeable. This card makes my board look like a postage stamp lol 4080 by Ryan Butterworth, on Flickr Edited December 9, 20223 yr by ryanbatc | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
December 9, 20223 yr 40 minutes ago, ryanbatc said: This card makes my board look like a postage stamp Is that behemoth industrial rad stack over your board a CPU cooler? Edited December 9, 20223 yr by odourboy [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
December 9, 20223 yr https://store.cablemod.com/12vhpwr-angled-adapter/ AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
December 9, 20223 yr So now we really know why tower cases are so spacious, so they can be filled with our monsterous air coolers. Sporting a DH-15s in my build as well, and I thought my 3080 ti FTW3 was huge. Nice pic, thanks; now back to VR sim flying. Edited December 9, 20223 yr by TheFamilyMan CPU: AMD 9800X3D PBO MB +200 CO -25| Motherboard: MSI MAG X870e Tomahawk WiFi | GPU: MSI RTX 5090 Ventus 3X OC | RAM: G.Skill 2x32GB DDR5 6000 cas 30 | M.2 SSDs: Samsung 990 EVO Plus 2T, WD Black SN750 M.2 1T | Hard Drive: WD Black HDD 6T 7200 | Optical Drive: LG Bluray writer, internal | Cooling: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO | Case: Fractal Design Focus G | PSU: NZXT C1200 1200W Win 11 Pro 64|HP Reverb G2 revised VR HMD|Asus 25" IPS 2K 60Hz monitor|Saitek X52 Pro & Peddles|TIR 5 (now retired)
December 11, 20223 yr Interesting video where Aero user goes back to G2 for a comparison. LOVED his 6DOF motion platform! 😃 [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
December 11, 20223 yr If you've got a simpit like that (drool), you better be using an Areo. I do agree though, as a G2 user, things could be better (but that is if price was no object). Thanks for posting that video. Edited December 11, 20223 yr by TheFamilyMan CPU: AMD 9800X3D PBO MB +200 CO -25| Motherboard: MSI MAG X870e Tomahawk WiFi | GPU: MSI RTX 5090 Ventus 3X OC | RAM: G.Skill 2x32GB DDR5 6000 cas 30 | M.2 SSDs: Samsung 990 EVO Plus 2T, WD Black SN750 M.2 1T | Hard Drive: WD Black HDD 6T 7200 | Optical Drive: LG Bluray writer, internal | Cooling: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO | Case: Fractal Design Focus G | PSU: NZXT C1200 1200W Win 11 Pro 64|HP Reverb G2 revised VR HMD|Asus 25" IPS 2K 60Hz monitor|Saitek X52 Pro & Peddles|TIR 5 (now retired)
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