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I have ASX/AGX. Is FEX noticeably better/different than AGX?

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Quite different overall....see my post below on a similar subject.If you have the money to spend, I think all three are valuable and works well together....but you must have a reason to want FE....in my case, it was the clouds...which is primarily the only reason I bought FEX. Other than that, I use the weather generated X Graphic textures/colors (i.e. sky color, water color, RWY lighting, etc), in addition to all the other textures available in X Graphics, and not a part of FEX.FEX does provide a quite interesting set-up to create your own custom graphics, which is really well done, but I doubt I will be using that function much at all, as I am more geared these days to modifying panels and planes instead.

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I still haven't pulled the trigger on this one but was wondering if anyone has tried the 512x512 clouds in ASX and how they compare to the 1024X1024 in FEX?

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Personally, thus far, I'm using the 512x512 clouds with FE, as I just don't see the need to go to the higher resolution....but that may change over time.

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Using 512x512 here as well.As for FEX vs X-Graphics, well....the clouds, sky and water in FEX blow away anything I have seen in X-Graphics.However, X-Graphics has it's uses for other textures like the runways etc.They can work well together IMHO.Glenn

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IMO,512x512 look fine for the main cumulus/struats clouds.1024 though look better, (slightly close up)Big improvement for me is cirrus at 1024x1024, which look incredible at 1024, and there is an option to use different sizes for different types of clouds. i.e cirrus can be 1024 and main clouds 512.I have done some extensive testing and can't find a performace hit even if all clouds are 1024 and 32 bit.The clouds are awesome. The water is a huge improvement also.

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I like what I see in FEX but is it really worth the money? I've seen discussions that there isn't any performance hit, no FPS hit. Thought I saw someone say they may even have a slight increase in FPS.I'm also contemplating MTX, I think this would do more for my experience, only wish they had a demo...

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I'm on the fence as well. I like ASG/XG so far, and the FEX shots look great, but is it really worth the purchase if I only end up using the clouds?

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i dont have ASX/AGX so I cant make that comparison but if you have ever said to yourself "I wish that water were just a little darker and a bit more grey" or "why is that water so green?" ...FEX is the program that allows you to load in replacement texturesand create new textures and modify existing textures. Its really cool.If all you want is some cloud textures then I'm not sure you'd get much more out of FEX but I, personnally, love the ability to make it look like I want.I've taken two of the themes that came with FEX and modified them a little. I'm going to modify some more as I figure out what texturegoes where.Its great if you're the slightest bit creative.At first I felt like I may have spent too much money but now I'm glad I did. I can change any/all of the water, the sunrise, the sunset, the color of the sky during the day. The only thing I'm discovering is that they have already beat me to some of the best sky colors (most realistic). I currently use Kosher Sky with a modified sunset. water is 'grey storms' (made a little darker).you can also create your own clouds and modify their appearance as well.I dont notice any performance hit. I'm hoping their weather engine solves my most hated issue: instant visibity changes. It just cant be that hard of a problem to solve. But I dont really know, so...

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I own ASX/X Graphics and FEX. The cloud, sky, and water textures in my opinion are much better and make a very noticable (in big way) difference in appearance of these elements within FSX. I'm still using the sun/moon, road/railway and airport textures of X Graphics and as said the cloud, sky, and water textures of FEX. FEX is nothing short of stunning.The $44.95 cost of FEX was money well spent and has made my experience that much more realistic and immersive.

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Gday, I totally concur with these comments. I had it for 2004 and reckoned it was great and FEX is the same but better. Well worth the money and congratulations to the team who made it possible.:-beerchug

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I'm more interested in the WATER than the clouds.Default sim water coloration is off a little bit...I THINK but don't know, that FEX addresses the water coloration issue...??RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

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It surely does...just need to be careful with other textures interacting with FEX textures. ie UTX water textures in combination with certain FEX water textures....could/can produce some odd results.

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I have FE for FS9 as well and really like it, but I also think AGX looks pretty good as is. I do think the water textures could maybe be a little bit better, but will SP2 help that? Who can say for sure until SP2 is available, really?

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I don't have UTX so I suppose I'm good on that front.I do have XGraphics but can't find any water textures that are muted and dulled (like real life). The tropical water in FSX is neon bright blue even on a cloudy day.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

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I bought it purely because it had Peter Wildings name on it.I'm very glad I did. First flight I really only noticed a more realistic sky, 2nd flight I had a very complex overcast sky with a 2000' ceiling and it looked exactly like the flight I had done in a real airplane a couple of days before, with different types of cloud layers visible through breaks, the 3rd time I noticed my water looks awesome and no longer is comprised of big squares. The more I fly with FEX the more I am impressed with it. It is well worth the money and makes FSX look much more realistic.

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I just got FEX this morning - then had to got to work. Bummer.But when I got home I flew for a bit and I am very impressed. The graphics are delicious and the water is mighty tasty. This is a quality add-on. Didn't notice any FPS hit either. (Nice to have the $10 off coupon for us FS9 FE owners, too.)FE for FS9 was a solid product and FEX looks to be the same. Two thumbs from me.

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Wow! I have been a fan of Peter Wilding "goodies" for a few years now, so after I saw a screenshot or two I stole my kids lunch money:-lol and purchased FEX.:-lol (PLEASE DO NOT CALL CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES, THIS WAS MY ATTEMPT AT HUMOR:-roll )I am using XGraphics, edited to remove clouds, sky and water. Then made my choices in FEX and installed them. Launched FSX and used MegaScenery Hawaii. NO FRAME HITS! REALISTIC CLOUDS. FROM WHAT IS RIGHT OUTSIDE MY WINDOW, AND WHAT IS ON THE MONITOR, I CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE IN SKY COLOR ! WOW, oh already said that. See for yourself,http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/178518.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/178519.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/178520.jpgOriginal pics were 1920x1200. Hope they look as good reduced in size.I chose "real world static weather" inside FSX settings.I just cant get over those "puffy, fluffy, wuffy" clouds. I flew the sim for an hour, then went outside and looked up, only to find those same looking clouds right there in the real sky! I am VERY IMPRESSED.After a year of "lurking" this new software made me come out of the shadows to share with you all. Absolutely stunning. Thank you Peter Wilding, Robert Stevens, Chris Norris and all the others who made FEX. I am really looking forward to the "Weather" feature. Money well spent IMHO. Best Regards,E.N. Owings

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Thank you! :-) We have been amazed by the reaction, not because we lacked confidence in FEX but been amazed at the kind words said! It really is very appreciated.Kind regards,Chris Norris

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>I don't have UTX so I suppose I'm good on that front.>>I do have XGraphics but can't find any water textures that are>muted and dulled (like real life). The tropical water in FSX>is neon bright blue even on a cloudy day.>>Rhett>>AMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS>A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150>gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb>5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster PraetorianHi Rhett,FEX allows you to choose any color for water you choose, from bright to dark. You can also select different coral patterns individually for each depth amoung other things such as waves etc. :-) Obviously you don't have to fiddle around with the Designer mode and just install water themes which match what you want or make slight changes to an existing theme.The fact is everyone has a different idea of what color the sea actually is, there is no right or wrong as such hence the approach we took.Kind regards,Chris

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All right... I couldn't hold on any longer and got the FEX. I have seen Mango's screen shots with those awesome clouds and wanted the same. Not that I was stingy or anything. The XGraphics cost around $30-40..whatever I paid when got the ASX. So the thought of spending another $45 didn't seem necessary. I tried to play around with the clouds in XGraphics and got it to a comfortable level. I was thinking thats it.. Is there a better cloud than that? But then I kept going back to Mango's screen shots and there was something really nice about it.So I got it...installed it and looked at the cloud themes and it didn't look much different from XGraphics. at least when I saw it in the FXE configuration screens (those small ones). I then downloaded a Theme called "Volume metrics" and Voila.... what a set of clouds. Simply amazing. they are the 1024 X 1024 ones. I have been flying with tons and tons of clouds around me..and this is a new world out there.I haven't looked seriously at the other textures like water and stuff much. But I like the fact that you can create your textures fairly easily. Also, FEX Library would eventually grow that you could download. There are plenty of good textures already out there that you could download and check it out.Now, if you already have Xgraphics, how much does FEX add to it. For me, IMO, These clouds alone is worth the money. I only wish, I could install different water textures for different geography. Note to self: remember to post this for your FSXI wish list. :)Mannyhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/178889.jpgBTW..that F-18 is an FS9 freeware..not from Acceleration. ;)

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your quick help with a silly install problem as well. I still have a few problems when reaching the base of the layers (gray-outs), but I suppose it's my vidcard. We'll see with the new one in a few days. Also, it looks like there are different textures for the very far-away clouds? Am I wrong?

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