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Video: Virtual Reality Microsoft Flight Simulator for my Dad

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All,

Following on from video I made showing the PC I built for my Dad earlier in the year, I’ve now added a VR headset and wanted to share with you how it’s gone:

It’s incredible how well it works where I almost got carried away using it myself after setting it up. We are absolutely delighted with it!

Edited by jcrider

A happy days video ! One of those add on pockets that attach to the backstrap and holds a flat battery will had several hours to the play time. And will balance the headset better and keep the lenses from moving around with respect to eye pupils. 

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11 hours ago, Fielder said:

A happy days video ! One of those add on pockets that attach to the backstrap and holds a flat battery will had several hours to the play time. And will balance the headset better and keep the lenses from moving around with respect to eye pupils. 

Hi Fielder, thanks for the comment!

I didn't think of an additional battery pack, although using the link cable means the headset remains charged up. Initially, I connected the Meta Quest 2 via WiFi but visual lag/delay in flight was horrendous, and the link cable fixed this.

Eye tiredness is the main downside for using the headset, where after 20-30 minutes use we both found we needed a break.  I'm currently looking into getting some additional prescription lenses (for my dad) for the headset and will post an update if we get some.

25 minutes ago, jcrider said:

I'm currently looking into getting some additional prescription lenses (for my dad) for the headset and will post an update if we get some.

That will help immensly with tired eyes, especially if you add the blue-light filter. When I started using headsets I had the same problems first. My eyes became tired after 30 minutes. After getting the lenses that changed immidiately. Now the only thing that cuts my sessions short is that I sweat way more under the headset and it gets too hot after about 2 hours.

After trying VR with a borrowed Quest 2, I bought a TrackIR 5 and find it much better.  The resolution and performance in VR was not for me though I find both to be a lot more immersive.  VR will improve in a few years and when that happens, I may feel differently.

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HI jcrider,

If your dad want some feedback you can buy Next Level Racing Haptic Feedback System there is a profile for MSFS 2020

Theo Soldaat

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2 hours ago, Farlis said:

That will help immensly with tired eyes, especially if you add the blue-light filter. When I started using headsets I had the same problems first. My eyes became tired after 30 minutes. After getting the lenses that changed immidiately. Now the only thing that cuts my sessions short is that I sweat way more under the headset and it gets too hot after about 2 hours.

That is fantastic feedback, thank you. Hopefully, I'll be able to get some for him and it will further improve the flight sim experience.

In the YouTube comments for the video, someone mentioned using a fan with their Quest 2. I had a quick look and sure enough there are fans you can attach to the headset that pull cool air in and expel warmer air, perhaps that might be of some use? (although having air pushed past your eyes might make them dry quicker?)

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2 hours ago, cianpars said:

After trying VR with a borrowed Quest 2, I bought a TrackIR 5 and find it much better.  The resolution and performance in VR was not for me though I find both to be a lot more immersive.  VR will improve in a few years and when that happens, I may feel differently.

Hi cianpars, thank you! That's interesting as I hadn't considered a TrackIR 5 device so based on your recommendation I might have a look into it and see how well we fair.

When you had the Quest 2 did you try it though a link cable or through WiFi? I ask as I found the performance difference between the two was night and day with the link cable providing a flawless in-flight experience.

I agree VR will (and needs to) improve, something my Dad noticed and mentioned towards the end of the video.

Edited by jcrider

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1 hour ago, pipo8 said:

HI jcrider,

If your dad want some feedback you can buy Next Level Racing Haptic Feedback System there is a profile for MSFS 2020

Thank you pipo8! It was only while using the VR headset that my Dad mentioned how a chair with feedback would make it even more immersive, so I have started to look into this. I appreciate the suggestion!

Lucky dad !!!!

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Flightsimming since 1992

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52 minutes ago, jcrider said:

Hi cianpars, thank you! That's interesting as I hadn't considered a TrackIR 5 device so based on your recommendation I might have a look into it and see how well we fair.

When you had the Quest 2 did you try it though a link cable or through WiFi? I ask as I found the performance difference between the two was night and day with the link cable providing a flawless in-flight experience.

I agree VR will (and needs to) improve, something my Dad noticed and mentioned towards the end of the video.

Yeah, I was using wifi as i didn't have the correct link cable, so you may have a point there.

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Blue light shift. Open XR toolkit is an app almost everybody uses with the HP Reverb headset when flying MSFS. It has blue light shift slider and is adjustable as to how much shift. Much better solution than a blue lens. I'm not sure if the Meta headset can use that Open XR toolkit. (Open XR Toolkit is a different app than the Microsoft Open XR Tools app).

 

 

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I bought the HP reverb G2 already two years ago. resolution is higher; LCD screens with a resolution of 2160 x 2160 per eye. weight about the same. refresh rate (ONLY🤣 90 Hz) of 120 Hz means nothing if the pc doesn't deliver more than ca. 60 fps in VR anyway. so close to the release of their next model in September, I would have waited another 2 more months for the Quest 3 at $ 499.

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60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

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20 hours ago, cianpars said:

Yeah, I was using wifi as i didn't have the correct link cable, so you may have a point there.

I can only speak for our own experience, but it was a huge difference between the two. I wouldn't have kept the headset nor made the video if the cable hadn't worked so well.  That said, WiFi worked perfectly with some other apps I briefly tried including SuperHot VR the game.

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13 hours ago, Fielder said:

Blue light shift. Open XR toolkit is an app almost everybody uses with the HP Reverb headset when flying MSFS. It has blue light shift slider and is adjustable as to how much shift. Much better solution than a blue lens. I'm not sure if the Meta headset can use that Open XR toolkit. (Open XR Toolkit is a different app than the Microsoft Open XR Tools app).

 

 

Thank you Fielder, I don't believe the Quest 2 has a blue light filter but it does have night mode which we haven't tried yet.  Anything to reduce eye strain or tiredness can only be a good thing.  I appreciate the suggestion!

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