July 25, 20232 yr On 7/23/2023 at 6:54 PM, Reader said: As a layman, it appears that for some time, when Windows "updates", it in fact completely removes the last version and puts it into a folder for future reference, in case the User wants to "roll back". Once again, to the layman, that looks more like a clean installation, that then has existing added software added back int Whilst it is true that feature updates create a fresh copy of the system files next to the version it is going to replace it is far from a clean installation. All your existing drivers, settings and issues are migrated to the fresh installation, things that are wrong will still be wrong, and drivers and settings that worked fine with the previous version can be incompatible with the new one. I think it is safe to say that most of us have hardware that is not typical for the everyday Windows user and I would recommend a clean install over an upgrade. Not all drivers that worked fine in Windows 10 do so in Windows 11 and some drivers are not automatically updated by the Windows update process. For older systems, the benefits of Windows 11 to Windows 10 are tiny so there is no reason to hurry this upgrade. Pick the right time for it, either when you think your PC could use a cleanup, you are worried the upgrade won't be for free much longer or when support for Windows 10 stops in 2025. If you have a new CPU, especially those with performance/efficiency cores, the improved scheduler might be reason alone to upgrade sooner. Flightsim rig: CPU: AMD 5900x | Mobo: MSI X570 MEG Unify | RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo | GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3090 | Storage: M.2 (2 & 4 TB) | PSU: Corsair RM850x | Case: Fractal Define 7 XL Display: Acer Predator x34 3440x1440 | Speakers: Logitech Z906 Controllers: Fulcrum One Yoke | MFG Crosswind v2 pedals | Honeycomb Bravo Quadrant |Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant | Stream Deck XL & Plus | TrackIR 5 Tobii eye tracking
July 25, 20232 yr 18 minutes ago, orchestra_nl said: Whilst it is true that feature updates create a fresh copy of the system files next to the version it is going to replace it is far from a clean installation. All your existing drivers, settings and issues are migrated to the fresh installation, things that are wrong will still be wrong, and drivers and settings that worked fine with the previous version can be incompatible with the new one. I think it is safe to say that most of us have hardware that is not typical for the everyday Windows user and I would recommend a clean install over an upgrade. Not all drivers that worked fine in Windows 10 do so in Windows 11 and some drivers are not automatically updated by the Windows update process. For older systems, the benefits of Windows 11 to Windows 10 are tiny so there is no reason to hurry this upgrade. Pick the right time for it, either when you think your PC could use a cleanup, you are worried the upgrade won't be for free much longer or when support for Windows 10 stops in 2025. If you have a new CPU, especially those with performance/efficiency cores, the improved scheduler might be reason alone to upgrade sooner. This has always been the correct school of thought but for me this upgrade was hassle free outside of what I mentioned in this thread. Even with that after playing around with it I found I worked out any issues I had with loading MSFS. I haven't done something like this since upgrading Winsdows XP to Windows 7 (which I had to scape because of what you mentioned here). It seems Windows 10/11 are so similar going to 11 is a non issue. You are correct in saying if you had weird problems in 10 it will only carry over but most of us here are tech savvy enough our 10 boxes are running as lean and efficiently as possible so for most there's no issue there. FS2020 Alienware Aurora R11 10th Gen Intel Core i7 10700F - Windows 11 Home 32GB Ram NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super OC 16GB - Pimax Crystal Light VR
August 25, 20232 yr I got the pop up notification to switch to windows 11. I have not upgraded yet but I am about to because it specifically says if you don't like windows 11 you can switch back to windows 10. Seems to be no downside to testing it...
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August 25, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, knich said: I got the pop up notification to switch to windows 11. I have not upgraded yet but I am about to because it specifically says if you don't like windows 11 you can switch back to windows 10. Seems to be no downside to testing it... Good luck with that.....😉
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August 25, 20232 yr I've been simming on Win11 since about a year ago, Im really happy with it, it has been quite stable, never have had any BSOD issues and I appreciate the fact its UI is way better organized than Win10. I can't say Win11 is better than Win10 for MSFS but neither the other way around, all I can say is I won't go back to Win10. Edited August 25, 20232 yr by CarlosF Windows 11 - Samsung 990 Pro M.2 | Asus Prime Z690 | i7 12700KF HT | DeepCool LS520 SE | MSI 5070 Ti Ventus OC | 64GB G.Skill XMP II | Lian Li 216 LANCOOL RGB | TrackIr v5 | Honeycomb Alfa - Bravo - Charlie | MSFS 2024 - Samsung 990 Pro M.2 | Curved 27" MSI | JBL Quantum 810
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