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Biggest differences and gains between v4 and v5?

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7 hours ago, Rogen said:

Hi,

Stutterfests are generally related to the maxing out of resources, e.g. maxing out CPU or GPU where usually it's the maxing out of GPU that results is large dropping of frame rates.

Fortunatelly the current batch of hardware available can for the most part render such occurances pretty minimal.

So whether you choose v4.5 or v5.4 or v6.x, having suitably powerful hardware combined with matched tuning can result in the sim output looking as good as it can be, as well as performing as well as can be.

A great aspect of P3D is it's tunablity where a default install can be tuned to achieve maximum asthetic's and performance for the chosen hardware.

Personally I run v4.5 because so far the later P3D versions don't fill enough of column B vs. the column A of v4.5.

I've included a couple of pics from my tuned v4.5

Be nicer to have a P3D screen shots thread under the P3D main forum... (hint hint moderators, be good for XP as well).

Cheers

Over Southampton Commons heading to EGHJ Bembridge.

 

 

Somewhere in Australia (there is a town on the other side of the ridge, don't remember the name though)

 

 

Flatstick over Florida

 

The AA in the below pic is 8x MSAA which does pretty good at smoothing out the powerlines.

 

🤩 clouds look great 

sky force?

Rdshade?

tomatoshade?

may you share your preset?

oled tv?

thanks

mike

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10 hours ago, Rogen said:

Hi,

Stutterfests are generally related to the maxing out of resources, e.g. maxing out CPU or GPU where usually it's the maxing out of GPU that results is large dropping of frame rates.

Fortunatelly the current batch of hardware available can for the most part render such occurances pretty minimal.

So whether you choose v4.5 or v5.4 or v6.x, having suitably powerful hardware combined with matched tuning can result in the sim output looking as good as it can be, as well as performing as well as can be.

A great aspect of P3D is it's tunablity where a default install can be tuned to achieve maximum asthetic's and performance for the chosen hardware.

Personally I run v4.5 because so far the later P3D versions don't fill enough of column B vs. the column A of v4.5.

I've included a couple of pics from my tuned v4.5

Be nicer to have a P3D screen shots thread under the P3D main forum... (hint hint moderators, be good for XP as well).

Cheers

Over Southampton Commons heading to EGHJ Bembridge.

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Somewhere in Australia (there is a town on the other side of the ridge, don't remember the name though)

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Rogen, your incredible 'as real as it gets' pictures never fails to amaze me. You really should write a definitive book, guide, or bible of some sort. Please! Too bad if these works of 'art' become just memories and hidden in hard-to-find posts scattered in Avsim forums and forgotten over time. 😞

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25 minutes ago, Matt Sdeel said:

Rogen, your incredible 'as real as it gets' pictures never fails to amaze me. You really should write a definitive book, guide, or bible of some sort. Please! Too bad if these works of 'art' become just memories and hidden in hard-to-find posts scattered in Avsim forums and forgotten over time

Yes, his screenshots are quite nice, but realize that in some of them he is certainly using highly detailed payware scenery.  These are not pics of vanilla P3D.

His signature states: "Orbx Global, Vector and more".  I would add "lots more".

Dave

 

Simulator: P3Dv6.1

System Specs: Intel i7 13700K CPU, MSI Mag Z790 Tomahawk Motherboard, 32GB DDR5 6000MHz RAM, Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Video Card, 3x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2 2280 SSDs, Windows 11 Home OS

My website for P3D stuff: https://sites.google.com/view/thep3dfiles/home

I think he is using Rex texture direct with soft clouds enhanced also.

 

mike 

The first screenshot is definitely with ORBx TrueEarth Great Britain South installed.

Christopher Low

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme

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14 hours ago, mikeymike said:

I think he is using Rex texture direct with soft clouds enhanced also.

 

mike 

I am not sure he's using Rex SF for cloud textures. From what I recall @Rogen was using a custom set of cloud textures from @kiwi_biplane and a custom set of shaders and effects in v4.5 as Dave mentioned.

The highlights to the clouds shown in some of the screenshots Rogen has posted is something I did not see when using default Rex SF cloud textures in v4.5.  If you are wiling to tinker and modify the P3D default configuration, there's a lot that can be achieved with the sim to make it even more realistic.

 

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But there's at least one BIG and annoying difference between V6 and V5... In v5 the other stars are visible even while the Sun is still above the horizon, and there aren't that much Supernovas 🙂

V6 appears to have fixed that.

Flying gliders since 1980

Flightsimming since 1992

AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)

Hi Folks,

Whilst a little off the tracks of the thread title, I'm flattered people like my personal efforts 😁

First I'll note I've come from FSX originally (still have the original disks), then moved onto FSX-SE and given the long usage time period I've built up a lot of addons.

So while I do have many addons purchased over the P3D period, there are also items I've been using since FSX days, mostly Orbx scenery related.

I've answered individually but look to the thread opened by Matt Steel titled "Rogen's P3D v4" where I'll place a summary of the various bits and pieces I use.

On 8/13/2023 at 8:43 PM, mikeymike said:

🤩 clouds look great 

sky force?

Rdshade?

tomatoshade?

may you share your preset?

oled tv?

thanks

mike

Hi Mike, Custom cloud shader, Tomatoshade and 3 x Dell 30hz capable monitors.

 

On 8/14/2023 at 12:42 AM, Matt Sdeel said:

Rogen, your incredible 'as real as it gets' pictures never fails to amaze me. You really should write a definitive book, guide, or bible of some sort. Please!

 Hi Matt, I do have a spreadsheet listing the addins in use that includes their installation details and quirks I've come across, I probably could expand upon it as a type of base.

Really though I tend to be on the side of time poor when it comes to such things plus there are a number of guides already out in the world.

We'll see how we go, would put it in hints and tips if it all came together.

 

On 8/14/2023 at 1:08 AM, dave2013 said:

Yes, his screenshots are quite nice, but realize that in some of them he is certainly using highly detailed payware scenery.  These are not pics of vanilla P3D.

His signature states: "Orbx Global, Vector and more".  I would add "lots more".

Dave

Hi Dave, yes there are lots more 🙂, that said Orbx Global Base, Vector and various Orbx regions are items I've had in place since the FSX days noting most of the lighting look is achieved via shader mods.

 

On 8/14/2023 at 11:01 AM, mikeymike said:

I think he is using Rex texture direct with soft clouds enhanced also.

Hi Mikeymike, spot on, I am using Rex texture direct with soft clouds enhanced.

 

On 8/14/2023 at 9:30 PM, Christopher Low said:

The first screenshot is definitely with ORBx TrueEarth Great Britain South installed.

Hi Chris, Also spot on, I do have ORBx TrueEarth Great Britain South installed.

 

On 8/15/2023 at 1:08 AM, 787flyer said:

I am not sure he's using Rex SF for cloud textures. From what I recall @Rogen was using a custom set of cloud textures from @kiwi_biplane and a custom set of shaders and effects in v4.5 as Dave mentioned.

The highlights to the clouds shown in some of the screenshots Rogen has posted is something I did not see when using default Rex SF cloud textures in v4.5.  If you are wiling to tinker and modify the P3D default configuration, there's a lot that can be achieved with the sim to make it even more realistic.

Hi 787Flyer, Almost, the screen shot samples are using the clouds out of Rex texture direct with soft clouds enhanced, where the dynamic cloud lighting is produced by a custom cloud shader that @kiwi_biplane put me onto.

Inititally when I trialled the shader, while the look was good, there were a few things I didn't like about it, plus such dynamic lighting effects are quite GPU intensive and my 1070ti GPU didn't like it so much as the shader is quite GPU intensive.

I've since updated my GPU to a 3080Ti and at the moment I'm reviewing the shader values and making my own changes, most notably has been cloud shadow corrections which I'm now happy with, and where my next mod will be correction of some of the cloud colour shading.

To sum up, the shader is a work in progress that I've been modifying to suit my personal taste.

Cheers

Ryzen 5800X clocked to 4.7 Ghz (SMT off), 32 GB ram, Samsung 1 x 1 TB NVMe 970, 2 x 1 TB SSD 850 Pro raided, Asus Tuf 3080Ti

P3D 4.5.14, Orbx Global, Vector and more, lotsa planes too.

Catch my vids on Oz Sim Pilot, catch my screen pics @ Screenshots and Prepar3D

Rogen 

do you mind posting the link to the cloud shader mod 

and your tomato shade ini file?

also what options did you install in rex texture direct and clouds?

Thanks

mike

I also use REX 4 Texture Direct Soft Clouds Enhanced Edition (P3Dv4.5HF2). Whilst the clouds do not get rendered on my mediocre PC (I have to save processing power somewhere), I really like the dawn and dusk lighting that this package provides.

Christopher Low

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme

UK2000 Beta Tester

16 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

I also use REX 4 Texture Direct Soft Clouds Enhanced Edition (P3Dv4.5HF2). Whilst the clouds do not get rendered on my mediocre PC (I have to save processing power somewhere), I really like the dawn and dusk lighting that this package provides.

Yes I too really like the dawn and dusk options the package comes with.

I still used the clouds when I had a less powerful machine, I was using the DXT 5 and lowest resolution options as these were the least resource hungry.

Nowdays with the 3080Ti and 5800X it's full max resolution and 32 bit images.

Cheers

Ryzen 5800X clocked to 4.7 Ghz (SMT off), 32 GB ram, Samsung 1 x 1 TB NVMe 970, 2 x 1 TB SSD 850 Pro raided, Asus Tuf 3080Ti

P3D 4.5.14, Orbx Global, Vector and more, lotsa planes too.

Catch my vids on Oz Sim Pilot, catch my screen pics @ Screenshots and Prepar3D

21 hours ago, mikeymike said:

do you mind posting the link to the cloud shader mod 

and your tomato shade ini file?

also what options did you install in rex texture direct and clouds?

I'll try to allocate some time over the weekend to review where these are at.

As to the "rex texture direct and clouds", there are a lot of choices available, I used the Community release of "Flight Sim Jewels - Pacific" as a starting base, but there are plenty of others people have placed into the Community.

Do a search in the Community Tab for "Flight Sim Jewels" and you should find it, it's a great starting config.

Cheers

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Ryzen 5800X clocked to 4.7 Ghz (SMT off), 32 GB ram, Samsung 1 x 1 TB NVMe 970, 2 x 1 TB SSD 850 Pro raided, Asus Tuf 3080Ti

P3D 4.5.14, Orbx Global, Vector and more, lotsa planes too.

Catch my vids on Oz Sim Pilot, catch my screen pics @ Screenshots and Prepar3D

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-community tab is missing in v1.2.60

-static airport not supported

will this be solved any time soon

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