SU15 BETA available now!

[YVR_23 77]

3 hours ago, abennett said:

I’m seeing lots of reports that LOD distances have been severely downgraded in the latest beta build?

 

What are people’s experiences with this?

 

I really hope not, they have done lots of downgrading the sim graphically with Sim Updates and I was really hoping it wouldn’t happen again. I’m sure it’s just because people complain about performance and stutters whilst running inappropriate settings.

I don't see it.

[abennett 179]

Interesting post with a photo showing the decrease in draw distance from SU14 to 15.

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/1-37-7-0-reduced-lod/633307/69?u=dectenor1

[Ixoye 1,859]

I see no difference whatsoever.

[abennett 179]

7 minutes ago, Ixoye said:

I see no difference whatsoever.

If you read his description you will see it. I would have thought you could see it without anyway. The most obvious is one of the hills on the left, in SU14 it has details and contours and trees are drawn on it. With SU15 it’s just a straight line with no contours, indicating it has moved out of detailed terrain drawing distance, i.e., the draw distance has been reduced so this area is no longer drawn in detail. In SU14 the same hill also has trees drawn on it, in SU15 it doesn’t, also showing that the distance at which trees are drawn has been reduced. 
 

There are other examples in the comparison, but this one is a good start.

[Ixoye 1,859]

2 minutes ago, abennett said:

If you read his description you will see it. I would have thought you could see it without anyway. The most obvious is one of the hills on the left, in SU14 it has details and contours and trees are drawn on it. With SU15 it’s just a straight line with no contours, indicating it has moved out of detailed terrain drawing distance, i.e., the draw distance has been reduced so this area is no longer drawn in detail. In SU14 the same hill also has trees drawn on it, in SU15 it doesn’t, also showing that the distance at which trees are drawn has been reduced. 
 

There are other examples in the comparison, but this one is a good start.

I'm not referring to the picture, but what I see on my own monitor in the game.

[abennett 179]

2 minutes ago, Ixoye said:

I'm not referring to the picture, but what I see on my own monitor in the game.

Oh I see, sorry!

Have you done comparisons, or just going off how it seems?

[Nemo 1,308]

7 hours ago, Ixoye said:

I'm not referring to the picture, but what I see on my own monitor in the game.

Did you switch between SU14 and SU15beta forward and backwards and loading exactly the same situation? Otherwise you cannot say you see or you see not. At least my own memory wouldn't allow such a statement.

Edited March 10 by Nemo

[MrFuzzy 2,132]

I did not notice worse LOD but I haven't tested it before and after.

What I know for sure is that the performance of this beta sucks big time, and SU15 was supposed to increase it...

[Cpt_Piett 4,937]

8 hours ago, Nemo said:

Did you switch between SU14 and SU15beta forward and backwards and loading exactly the same situation? Otherwise you cannot say you see or you see not. At least my own memory wouldn't allow such a statement.

Excellent point! I often regret not doing more "scientific" tests with screenshots and performance values before&after. 

[Nemo 1,308]

5 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Excellent point! I often regret not doing more "scientific" tests with screenshots and performance values before&after. 

Thanks. But we know switching between beta and non-beta is no fun either ...

[Cpt_Piett 4,937]

7 minutes ago, Nemo said:

Thanks. But we know switching between beta and non-beta is no fun either ...

It's too time-consuming. At least for me...

[FBW737 525]

In flight sim unless you actually notice something isn't as good as used to be without someone prompting you to notice it or you are actively seeking out issues, they don't exist.

[abennett 179]

47 minutes ago, FBW737 said:

In flight sim unless you actually notice something isn't as good as used to be without someone prompting you to notice it or you are actively seeking out issues, they don't exist.

Agree.

But this is a beta, and the purpose of being in it is to seek out issues. And people have checked the draw distance and found that it has been reduced. Which I would consider issue, maybe some wouldn’t, but it’s an issue for me. It’s already so low anyway every little matters.

[Christopher Low 5,436]

I will be rather annoyed if the draw distance has been reduced. I increase detail levels on my PC as much as possible for a reason, and at the moment it is passing the test with style. I would prefer things to stay that way.

[Ixoye 1,859]

I noticed a performance loss of at least 20 fps with the latest Beta and mixture problems with Comanche, I will drop out from Beta now.

Edited March 10 by Ixoye