TDS GTNXi Pro with Navigraph Support released!

[Bert Pieke 7,591]

11 minutes ago, Lenny777 said:

Yes. It states while downloading TDSGPSManager but when I go to the downloads it has only a zip file. It's clearly not the exe manager.

Are you sure that the zip file is not what you actually need?  It says "using the exe manager", not "downloading the exe manager"..

What happens if you double click the "zip file"?

Edited February 29 by Bert Pieke

[Lenny777 299]

Not it definitely is not the manager as noted in the instructions of the PDF file. It is simply a zip file which when I execute it it just opens to a bunch of files.

[Lenny777 299]

Ok forget it. I'm using the new browser from MS and it stopped the exe file. I had to allow it to complete the download

[RobJC 2,073]

Totally buying this.

[regis9 4,039]

Thanks @Bert Pieke and @sniper31 for your info on what’s noticeably different between this one and the PMS.

I’d be interested to hear any other differences I could expect…I have a lifetime purchase of the PMS version that I bought a few years back because of the updatable navdata.  I do use the 750 a fair amount so would be up for a new purchase if there’s a significant difference between the two.

I appreciate that some people are saying this one is based on the Garmin trainer and therefore a 1:1 of the real unit but I really don’t know what that means vs the PMS or to put it another way, where the PMS unit differs from the real one.

Thanks

Dave

[mmcmah 446]

40 minutes ago, regis9 said:

Thanks @Bert Pieke and @sniper31 for your info on what’s noticeably different between this one and the PMS.

I’d be interested to hear any other differences I could expect…I have a lifetime purchase of the PMS version that I bought a few years back because of the updatable navdata.  I do use the 750 a fair amount so would be up for a new purchase if there’s a significant difference between the two.

I appreciate that some people are saying this one is based on the Garmin trainer and therefore a 1:1 of the real unit but I really don’t know what that means vs the PMS or to put it another way, where the PMS unit differs from the real one.

Thanks

Dave

I'm in the same boat with the same question.

[ryanbatc 13,038]

42 minutes ago, regis9 said:

Thanks @Bert Pieke and @sniper31 for your info on what’s noticeably different between this one and the PMS.

I’d be interested to hear any other differences I could expect…I have a lifetime purchase of the PMS version that I bought a few years back because of the updatable navdata.  I do use the 750 a fair amount so would be up for a new purchase if there’s a significant difference between the two.

I appreciate that some people are saying this one is based on the Garmin trainer and therefore a 1:1 of the real unit but I really don’t know what that means vs the PMS or to put it another way, where the PMS unit differs from the real one.

Thanks

Dave

Basically if realistic looks are important to you (and now having updated data and charts), you'd want to use the TDS.  PMS has a few features that the TDS does not YET have:  Crossfill and "nexrad" - not having these in the TDS has never bothered me.  Most simmers will fly directly through heavy rain (so what's the point of having precip displayed) and I already know everything I need to know about my flight plan using a single GTN unit.  I think someone else mentioned that the TDS doesn't show tiny msfs default airports - this is true - however, the real Garmin doesn't show tiny strips either with a few minor exceptions.  If displaying tiny default airports is very important to you you'll want to stick with PMS.  At any rate, both PMS and TDS are constantly improving their products and adding new features.  I could easily imagine TDS adding crossfill eventually.

[mmcmah 446]

6 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

Basically if realistic looks are important to you (and now having updated data and charts), you'd want to use the TDS.  PMS has a few features that the TDS does not YET have:  Crossfill and "nexrad" - not having these in the TDS has never bothered me.  Most simmers will fly directly through heavy rain (so what's the point of having precip displayed) and I already know everything I need to know about my flight plan using a single GTN unit.  I think someone else mentioned that the TDS doesn't show tiny msfs default airports - this is true - however, the real Garmin doesn't show tiny strips either with a few minor exceptions.  If displaying tiny default airports is very important to you you'll want to stick with PMS.  At any rate, both PMS and TDS are constantly improving their products and adding new features.  I could easily imagine TDS adding crossfill eventually.

Thank you!

[Gazzareth 825]

12 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

 I think someone else mentioned that the TDS doesn't show tiny msfs default airports - this is true - however, the real Garmin doesn't show tiny strips either with a few minor exceptions. 

I think it wasn't so much the size, rather airports that aren't in Navigraph. I would assume that will potentially be more than are missing from the Garmin database, as in years of using the RXP I think I only ever had to add two airports.

Anything in MSFS but closed in RW is probably not going to be in there, does Navigraph have airports without procedures? Not sure, can probably check the size of their database to confirm.

More likely to affect those in lighter aircraft I guess.....

 

G

[ryanbatc 13,038]

Just now, Gazzareth said:

does Navigraph have airports without procedures? Not sure, can probably check the size of their database to confirm.

 

Absolutely.  I frequently fly to airports without IAPs.  Navigraph doesn't include private strips that I know of... there may be a few exceptions though.

[Bert Pieke 7,591]

3 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

One important thing for me is how the two handle flightplans.  The Garmin (TDS) flightplan logic consists of a series of waypoints.  You can add a waypoint to the end at any time if you wish.  The Asobo/WT (PMS) flightplan logic consists of a departure and arrival waypoint with enroute waypoints in between.  If you add a waypoint to the end, it gets inserted before the arrival waypoint.  This is really confusing if you are not used to it..  I am sure that experienced users can work around this, but it totally throws me off..

Anyone care to comment?  Is there indeed a difference of flightplanning structure between Garmin and MSFS? @ryanbatc ?

Edited March 1 by Bert Pieke

[Mace 1,960]

3 hours ago, Lenny777 said:

Just bought the upgrade. Says I need TDSGPSManager.exe. to install the upgrade. Otherwise all I download is a zip file. Unzipped and nothing executable. Does anyone know where this is? I bought this in 2022. 

In your Community folder you should have a folder called tds-gtnxi-gauge

Inside that folder is TDSGPSManager.exe

You run that, it will ask for your login info, and then take you to a screen which will show what you have installed and if there's an update available.

[ryanbatc 13,038]

15 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

Anyone care to comment?  Is there indeed a difference of flightplanning structure between Garmin and MSFS? @ryanbatc ?

What do you mean by MSFS logic?  The WT Garmin avionics use the same logic as the TDS.  I fly a Beech irl and it sports a GNS430W.  The way I enter flight plans is the same as the TDS GTNxi.  I enter my origin airport followed by waypoints and then the destination.  As I near my destination I just press PROC to load an approach.  If I'm flying locally, all I do is Direct To an airport, and load an approach.  Or, one can just press PROC and select the airport/approach from there too.

I just loaded the sim and entered the same flight plan the same way in the TDS vs the G5000 in the Longitude.  While the G5000 has the labels origin, enroute, and destination, and the gtn doesn't - the entries are still the same order.  For instance my simple flight plan was KPCZ RROBB SHEAY KMSP.  I entered them in that order.  Then I went to PROC and added the MUSCL3 arrival into MSP via SHEAY.  

Is yours not working like this?

[mmcmah 446]

27 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

What do you mean by MSFS logic?  The WT Garmin avionics use the same logic as the TDS.  I fly a Beech irl and it sports a GNS430W.  The way I enter flight plans is the same as the TDS GTNxi.  I enter my origin airport followed by waypoints and then the destination.  As I near my destination I just press PROC to load an approach.  If I'm flying locally, all I do is Direct To an airport, and load an approach.  Or, one can just press PROC and select the airport/approach from there too.

I just loaded the sim and entered the same flight plan the same way in the TDS vs the G5000 in the Longitude.  While the G5000 has the labels origin, enroute, and destination, and the gtn doesn't - the entries are still the same order.  For instance my simple flight plan was KPCZ RROBB SHEAY KMSP.  I entered them in that order.  Then I went to PROC and added the MUSCL3 arrival into MSP via SHEAY.  

Is yours not working like this?

I think the question pertained to the way you enter flight plans in the PMS unit and how you have to enter the origin, then the destination, then the routing. It's more.of a pain if you want to.change your destination airport. Thanks for the explanation.

[ryanbatc 13,038]

3 minutes ago, mmcmah said:

I think the question pertained to the way you enter flight plans in the PMS unit and how you have to enter the origin, then the destination, then the routing. It's more.of a pain if you want to.change your destination airport. Thanks for the explanation.

Oh I thought there was an option to enter it either way?  I think in the WT avionics you CAN enter it that way too...  origin, dest, then enroute fixes.  I guess I've always just entered it in order that makes sense to me.