Photogrammetry (PG) gets a bad rap.

[Lord Farringdon 535]

PG has a lot of potential but server issues seems to plague it and users often complain about 'melted' buildings and a 'nuclear landscapes'. I have had as much myself but every now and then the planets align and tonight was one of those occasions while testing 30FPS locked in the Got Friends Optica. It was a butter smooth flight around New York and since it was going so well I thought I'd activate PG to load the system some more. This is what I got. Just Wow!   It gets a bad rap sometimes but when it's going well, PG doesn't deserve it.  

https://photos.app.goo.gl/JgYqPEwoWioQrq7a7

https://photos.app.goo.gl/t45eKa6akpKT8FWf6

https://photos.app.goo.gl/GttjvKdyimAQbABW7

https://photos.app.goo.gl/1VqffgzQT4iXQYF78

 

Edit:  Somebody let me know please if these images haven't linked. Thanks.

Cheers

Terry

 

 

Edited May 14 by Lord Farringdon

[cianpars 1,215]

Nice pictures.  They have linked perfectly.  I fly around NY quite frequently and get similar results always using PG.  Add Samscene's New York City Times scenery and it looks even better - one of my favourite addons.

[andy1252 4,049]

1 hour ago, Lord Farringdon said:

It gets a bad rap sometimes but when it's going well, PG doesn't deserve it.

Absolutely. The whole spectrum is covered, pretty much. There are some areas that always look bad, some that are usually immaculate and very impressive, and then there's the general thing about how the servers are behaving. But I for one would never contemplate running the sim without it.

For me the worst thing is the PG tree obelisks. Even when the surrounding buildings are good, there are a lot of places (LA is one) where the landscape is full of green concrete blocks. I calls 'em "uglifacts", and if they go away with 2024 then that in itself would be all I'd ask of the new sim.

[RaptyrOne 1,462]

@Lord Farringdon Nice pics. If I may ask, what mods do you use to fix the NY bridges? There are some options on fs.to to fix the solid bridges, not sure which are best, or one package that does them all?

[cianpars 1,215]

12 minutes ago, RaptyrOne said:

@Lord Farringdon Nice pics. If I may ask, what mods do you use to fix the NY bridges? There are some options on fs.to to fix the solid bridges, not sure which are best, or one package that does them all?

I use the RK Bridger mod.  It seems to be about the best.

[marcg11 126]

I agree - PG works about 90% of the time for me (every once in awhile I get melted buildings but has seems to not be occurring as much lately).   Non PG areas are fine - but I really fell like I get more color variation in PG areas and to see football fields or other signage where I can read the lettering clearly really makes the immersion level very high for me.   

[cianpars 1,215]

Also meant to say that the new system ASOBO is using for photogrammetry in the City Updates is excellent and much better than the older stuff.  I really hope we will see quality as good as this or better in flight sim 2024.

[bvdboomen 261]

1 hour ago, cianpars said:

Also meant to say that the new system ASOBO is using for photogrammetry in the City Updates is excellent and much better than the older stuff.

You've got that right but I rather think they went back to the initial PG system when MSFS was released. The cities coming with the sim since August 2020 were already great back then.

[CaptKornDog 288]

If there's a new system Asobo is using, I must have missed it.  While I still run with PG on, my biggest gripe is indeed the melted buildings and lacking skyscrapper lighting at night.

[Farlis 2,331]

Shouldn't it be spelled "bad rep"? 

Because it's not that someone is rapping very badly about PG from time to time, but that it gets a bad "REPutation"?

[cianpars 1,215]

7 minutes ago, CaptKornDog said:

If there's a new system Asobo is using, I must have missed it.  While I still run with PG on, my biggest gripe is indeed the melted buildings and lacking skyscrapper lighting at night.

It's called Triangulated Irregular Network or TIN for short.  It is massively better than what we had before and you may wish to Google it for a detailed explanation. 

[Mace 1,964]

42 minutes ago, Farlis said:

Shouldn't it be spelled "bad rep"? 

Because it's not that someone is rapping very badly about PG from time to time, but that it gets a bad "REPutation"?

No, it's "rap" as in a bad rap sheet. 

A "rap sheet" is the list of crimes of the accused.  So if you have a bad rap, you've got a rather extensive rap sheet.

[s0cks 142]

I love PG. I have slow internet (especially at peak hours) so it can take a while to load in at times, but once it has loaded in it usually looks pretty good. It's obviously far from perfect, but I'd take PG over the "Cities Skylines" look of procedural buildings any day of the week.

[Bobsk8 12,932]

I fly in and out of Manhattan's three major airports all the time, and it looks fine to me. 

[The Flight Level 2,121]

New York is the best! No mods, all default in this video!