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FS Navigator Gone - Who is going to replace it????

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I was reading that FS Navigator was not going to be developed any further. :( I was looking forward for a version for FSX.I have noticed that REX and Hifisim may be developing something, but are they going to be separate products and when are they going to be ready for the public. Also, what about FEX?I have been saving my $$ - but don't want to have to spend soooo much for so many products.HELP!!

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Thanks Mad Dog, but does this include weather with it like the other ones? Or is it just a flight planner?

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I believe the guys from Hifisim are working on a new planner - XPlanner.Given their excellent past products, Active Sky Series, XPax, both a must-have for me, I am sure that this will be winner.Pat

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>I believe the guys from Hifisim are working on a new planner>- XPlanner.>>Given their excellent past products, Active Sky Series, XPax,>both a must-have for me, I am sure that this will be winner.>>PatThat is a different kind of planner.

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Way too early to tell. Hifisim hasn't even released a feature list, so it's hard to speculate of what kind of planner this will be.

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>Thanks Mad Dog, but does this include weather with it like>the other ones? Or is it just a flight planner?Hi Bill:FS Nav did not contain a weather engine, but it was a great fs9 addon for sure. What do you mean separate products? Happy New Year :)

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Jim,Well, a meal planner, a wedding planner, etc. :)Happy New Year! It is safe to assume the HiFi "flight" planner will be compared to FSNav and others, specially when it comes to features that other flight planners unique. For example, will it read the simulator scenery, will it generate flight plans not only for FS, but other add ons, will it run as a module with FS or separate, or both, autorouting, etc. I'm sure details of this new flight planner will be released when appropriate. Best Regards and again, Happy New Year.Dave Vega

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The great thing about FSNav is that it ran inside FS.I hope someone comes up with one that does also.Ron

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>The great thing about FSNav is that it ran inside FS.I hope>someone comes up with one that does also.RonAs much as I loved FSNAV, this was the one feature that I did NOT like. Having to start FS in order to run FSNAV and create a flight plan was always a PITA to me.Especially now with a lot of add ons that want to be running before FSX to import the flight plan - becomes cumbersome. Start FSX - start 'planner' - create flight plan - save - exit FSX - start add on(s) - import flight plan - start FSX - this can get old in a hurry. MUCH prefer standalone product.Just MHO,VicQ6600 G0 CPU 2.4 o/c 3.65Evga 680i A1 with P31 BIOS 2G XP2-8500 DDR2 1066FSB Mushkin 996535 RAM 5-5-4-12-2T320G 7200 HD partitioned for XP/Vista/Programs 2 - 74G Raptors in RAID0 500G 7200 HD for backup SATA DVD burner Evga 8800GTS 640 PCIx 169.13 betaKandalf LCS case w/ built in liquid cooling 850W Thermaltake power supplyVisit the Virtual Pilot's Centerwww.flightadventures.comhttp://www.hifisim.com/banners/hifi-supporter-sigbanner.jpgRadar Contact Supporter: http://www.jdtllc.com/

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>>Thanks Mad Dog, but does this include weather with it like>>the other ones? Or is it just a flight planner?>Hi Bill:>>FS Nav did not contain a weather engine, but it was a great>fs9 addon for sure. What do you mean separate products? >>Happy New Year :)Well what I meant was that I don't have to buy 3 or 4 separate products. It would be nice to have some of these wrapped into one product. My thought is that having several products running at once might cause my somewhat moderate system to bog down. Also, it costs A LOT of $$ over time. Happy New Year to you and All

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I know that FSNav did not have a weather engine, but it would be cool to have one with it.I could only hope :)

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I love FSBuild. It is outside FSX the way all fight planners are outside the aircaft.I do flight planning as an independent task. Then I fly like I do for real and try to enter the waypoints in the GPS (Garmin or KLN).The only time I import is...when I fly very long distance inside Lvd D or PMDGI have never felt the need for another Flight planner.Manny

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Just purchased FSCommander..Stand alone program...not intergrated like FSNav was...for me it's a pain when using on 2nd monitor.Doesnt resize on 2nd monitorDoesnt show approach hdg's for rwy'sCant use if full window mode...TERRIBLE cant move other items to 2nd monitor.Other small but important things..Does have some positive aspects...Planner, etc.From 1 to 10, with 10 being the best..I rate FSNav at an 8 and FSC for me comes in at a 5.As far as I know it's pretty much the only game in town. FS Buld and Google Earth were suggested as replacements.If somebodys developing a replacement for FSNav it MUST be integrated like FSNav was... I bet whoever comes up with on would make a few $$$$$ as allot of people miss FSNav and would certainly purchase a comprable product.FWIW...My 2 cents...Vince

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I Bought FS commander without demoeing it (My mistake)Then found it wasn't integrated and have not used it.Learning experience for me.Ron

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The other thing to keep in mind, is that you can still use your FS Navigator, indirectly, to plan flights in FSX. If you still have FS9 installed, just create them in FS9 and export them to the FS9 as you normally would in FS Navigator. Then, when you run FSX, load the FS9 flightplans by browsing over to the older FS9 saved flightplans folder in the My Documents Flightsimulator Files directory. Select the appropriate flightplan, load it and there ya go. You do not have to recreate them in FSX. I do it all of the time. Once you amass a bunch of saved flightplans, just copy and paste them into the My DocumentsFlightSimulator X Files folder, if you want to. Not necessary, however.Doug Horton, if you read this, maybe you could include this tip in Horton's Tips for FSX in Computer Pilot??!!Regards,http://www.my-buddy-icon.com/Icons/objects/red_3d_plane.gifAlex ChristoffN562ZBaltimore, MD

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>OKflight etc like map view in FS.It was a lot quicker.RonI agree, the moving map access from inside FS was the key highlight for FSNav, and a must for any new planner. It would be great if a new planner could be accessible both without FSX running and from inside FSX when it is running.Ron

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Manny-The problem I had with FS Build was that once a flightplan was created, short of deleting waypoints, I found it next to impossible to edit it and move waypoints around as you could in FS Nav, and as you would do in an real FMC using the scratch pad. Maybe I missed something. Also, can you print the flightplan navlog in FS Build? I couldn't figure out how to do that either! Otherwise, I liked it too. The North Atlantic tracks for over-the-pond flights is wonderful.Cheers,http://www.my-buddy-icon.com/Icons/objects/red_3d_plane.gifAlex ChristoffN562ZBaltimore, MD

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>Manny->>The problem I had with FS Build was that once a flightplan was>created, short of deleting waypoints, I found it next to>impossible to edit it and move waypoints around as you could>in FS Nav, and as you would do in an real FMC using the>scratch pad. Maybe I missed something. Also, can you print the>flightplan navlog in FS Build? I couldn't figure out how to do>that either! Otherwise, I liked it too. The North Atlantic>tracks for over-the-pond flights is wonderful.>>>Cheers,>>http://www.my-buddy-icon.com/Icons/objects/red_3d_plane.gif>>Alex Christoff>N562Z>Baltimore, MDHmm... I think I have edited the file to do whatever I want. I once tried to get the Flight plan for Kai Tak for the PMDG 747. I edited the file to get what I wanted. Its been a while since I did that.The print thingi.. Not sure. I need to check.Manny

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I used FSNav for years and THE big feature was its ease of use, the IN FLIGHT moving map and the ability to run it as an autopilot from start to finish. I disagree that the in flight map is a deterrent feature. Indeed the great thing about it was that you don't have to start the planner if you want but if you do a simple key press while in FS gives you that option. In addition, I fly in full screen mode not windowed which is why I always preferred it to any other implementation. Will HiFi fill THAT void? I hope so.

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