56 minutes ago, CO2Neutral said:

No speculation, my actual experience, you have chosen not to believe because I haven’t provided you with video evidence and you’ve ignored the facts regarding the state of the SDK before and after MSFS 2020.

Sounds like you weren’t even on the Pre-release Dev team nor a listed partner?  Are you currently working the MSFS 2024 Dev builds?

I'm not a developer, so I'm not sure what you're going on about. 

One thing is for sure. You shouldn't make allegations if you don't have receipts. "Facts" doesn't mean what you think it means. 

 

1 hour ago, CO2Neutral said:

my actual experience, you have chosen not to believe

You are the one posting wild accusations with zero credibility. And zero proof. Why should anybody believe you? Don't be surprised if you do not sound convincing, if all substance you offer is based on "believing you".

15 minutes ago, fsiscool said:

 

You are the one posting wild accusations with zero credibility. And zero proof. Why should anybody believe you? Don't be surprised if you do not sound convincing, if all substance you offer is based on "believing you".

I would not worry about him, hes a P3D user with an axe to grind against MS/Asobo it appears with false accusations. Just let gone be gone and feel bad for said person. Best alternative is to ignore user.

1 hour ago, Abriael said:

I'm not a developer, so I'm not sure what you're going on about. 

There we go … finally.

17 minutes ago, fsiscool said:

You are the one posting wild accusations

What “wild accusations”?  That Jorg said he didn’t want to include 3rd party but his team convinced him to?  Yeah, I didn’t record the conversation but like I said, next Q&A, why don’t you ask Jorg what he wanted to do prior to MSFS 2020 release?  Still baffled at why you think this is an “accusation” as if what Jorg said is somehow wrong or subject to your judgement?  It’s a business model, it was MS Flight business model and it was going to be MSFS business model until Jorg was convinced otherwise.  Again, just business, there is no “accusation”.  If you chose not to believe or go and try to verify, that’s fine, all good … not sure why some (not all) are so defensive?

9 minutes ago, CO2Neutral said:

 That Jorg said he didn’t want to include 3rd party but his team convinced him to?  Yeah, I didn’t record the conversation

Then we have no reason to believe you.

19 minutes ago, CO2Neutral said:

What “wild accusations”?  That Jorg said he didn’t want to include 3rd party but his team convinced him to?  Yeah, I didn’t record the conversation but like I said, next Q&A, why don’t you ask Jorg what he wanted to do prior to MSFS 2020 release?

STANDARD: Will there be a software development kit for add-on developers?

Neumann: Yes, that will be published soon. Normally such a tool comes out when the game appears. We do it differently, at least six months in advance. The add-on developers were all happy. Basically, we're not doing a flight simulation, we're doing a platform. There has to be an ecosystem all around, otherwise it can't be healthy. I often talk to the add-on developers and have asked them each time what features they need to do a good job.

STANDARD: Will the Flight Simulator stay open for third-party software?

Neumann: Yes. The development of Flight Simulator X ended in 2007, and the game has been kept alive by third parties ever since. I often talk to the developers, and one of them builds airports for the game. He told me that was his life. He takes weeks off, then gets an all-access pass to an airport, takes 40,000 photos, and then builds on it for a year. Bizarre, that's so great! That's exactly the kind of people we want.

 

-> Spoken in November 2019, prior release, you are wrong. And not only with this accusation.

The 2020 SDK was good enough for addons to appear from day one.

31 minutes ago, CO2Neutral said:

There we go … finally.

What “wild accusations”?  That Jorg said he didn’t want to include 3rd party but his team convinced him to?  Yeah, I didn’t record the conversation but like I said, next Q&A, why don’t you ask Jorg what he wanted to do prior to MSFS 2020 release?  Still baffled at why you think this is an “accusation” as if what Jorg said is somehow wrong or subject to your judgement?  It’s a business model, it was MS Flight business model and it was going to be MSFS business model until Jorg was convinced otherwise.  Again, just business, there is no “accusation”.  If you chose not to believe or go and try to verify, that’s fine, all good … not sure why some (not all) are so defensive?

Finally what? I never even remotely implied that I was a developer.

There's nothing here about being "defensive." You are making an allegation with zero support. Either support it, or obviously people won't believe you, because you have given absolutely zero reasons for us to assign you any kind of credibility. It's that simple. 

 

Completely nonsensical thread title and I've no idea what the subject is from reading several pages of recent posts. 

I want my old avsim back 😭

3 minutes ago, sloppysmusic said:

Completely nonsensical thread title and I've no idea what the subject is from reading several pages of recent posts. 

I want my old avsim back 😭

The actual thread ended when Fenix posted mentioning that they understand Microsoft's reasons not to include them in the dev alpha. 

6 minutes ago, sloppysmusic said:

Completely nonsensical thread title and I've no idea what the subject is from reading several pages of recent posts. 

I want my old avsim back 😭

Tell me about it. So many threads end up like this. Nobody wants to end the discussion, resulting in an endless loop of people fiercely defending their opinions…

11 hours ago, CO2Neutral said:

in 2022 it was 25,427 (see pg 3 of survey details) … in 2023 it was 23,736 (see pg. 98 of survey details).  This is not showing growth.

This has been scientifically explained and mathematically proven.

Somehow the XP community failed to participate in last survey since it was not (officially) announced  on the major platforms XP users consume FS news. Many true aviation fans simply missed that survey.

 

9 hours ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

I would not worry about him, hes a P3D user with an axe to grind against MS/Asobo it appears with false accusations. 

Yup, I agree.

1 hour ago, SAS443 said:

This has been scientifically explained and mathematically proven.

Somehow the XP community failed to participate in last survey since it was not (officially) announced  on the major platforms XP users consume FS news. Many true aviation fans simply missed that survey.

 

It's much more easily explained with the fact that the people willing to spend half an hour answering a bunch of boring questions is hard to keep up year after year.

Edited November 15, 20241 yr by Abriael

Yawn.