2 minutes ago, bofhlusr said:

IF FSLTL and AIG(because they are both traffic injectors) and FS Traffic (not a traffic injector) can't or shouldn't be used with BATC, then, what can one use with BATC?  Just the default Traffic?

You can use FSTL and AIG models with BATC just don't use their injector. BATC will do it's own injection and traffic management. Works great like that on my system.

 

9 hours ago, mistolip said:

FS Traffic can be used with BATC but it isn't and doesn't have a traffic injector:

From Just Flight's website: "FS traffic adds tens of thousands of real-life commercial flight plans from different time periods, giving full worldwide coverage of commercial airline traffic sourced from the same suppliers that power a number of popular flight tracking websites and apps.

What makes a traffic injector a traffic injector? Isn't "adding flight plans" the same as "injecting traffic"?

1 minute ago, bofhlusr said:

From Just Flight's website: "FS traffic adds tens of thousands of real-life commercial flight plans from different time periods, giving full worldwide coverage of commercial airline traffic sourced from the same suppliers that power a number of popular flight tracking websites and apps.

What makes a traffic injector a traffic injector? Isn't "adding flight plans" the same as "injecting traffic"?

I think 'adding flight plans' means that MSFS itself (or the native sim injector) may use those plans to inject flights. Which is something different than acting as an actual injector itself. Not sure. All I know is you shouldn't use any of that with BATC.

 

I'm getting positive vibes about BATC from this thread. In other words, BATC is recommended (I don't use a mic).

But on the other hand, there might be performance issues with BATC which is discussed here:

So which is it?  Does BATC adversely affect or not adversely affect MSFS 2020 and 2024 performance when not using a mic on a desktop PC?
 

Edited February 22, 20251 yr by bofhlusr

  

22 minutes ago, bofhlusr said:

IF FSLTL and AIG(because they are both traffic injectors) and FS Traffic (not a traffic injector) can't or shouldn't be used with BATC, then, what can one use with BATC?  Just the default Traffic?

Seems I havn't been clear. 😉 This indeed:

18 minutes ago, BrianT said:

You can use FSTL and AIG models with BATC just don't use their injector. BATC will do it's own injection and traffic management. Works great like that on my system.

 

You only should use the models and liveries from FSTLT (freeware), AIG (freeware) and FS Traffic (payware with the lowest quality). Forget about whatever they offer when it comes to injecting traffic. BATC takes care of that.

2 minutes ago, bofhlusr said:

So which is it?  Does BATC adversely affect or not adversely affect MSFS 2020 and 2024 performance when not using a mic on a desktop PC?

Any traffic you add to the sim will more or less hurt performance. There's no free meal here. Using a mic or not doesn't make a difference.

Edited February 22, 20251 yr by mistolip

Can BATC just run without any user intervention at all ie. auto-starts and just runs in the background?  Apparently, it's an external program but can it get launched by installing BATC in the exe.xml file?

10 minutes ago, mistolip said:

Forget about whatever they offer when it comes to injecting traffic. BATC takes care of that.

Can I run BATC without using its traffic injector?

1 hour ago, bofhlusr said:

Can I run BATC without using its traffic injector?

Yes, but you won't hear any traffic over the radio.

Edited February 22, 20251 yr by Tuskin38