The FFFv2 engine expansion is now available. Below is the link purchase the engine expansion only. This for those who already have the 777v2.

https://store.x-plane.org/FlightFactor-777-Engine-Expansion_p_1988.html

The link below is for those who do not own the based produce which will include both the aircraft with engine expansion with this purchase.

https://store.x-plane.org/FlightFactor-777-200EREE-v2-Ultimate_p_1989.html

Below is the office post

https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/forums/topic/326186-flightfactor-777-engine-expansion/&page=2

 

for the price the 777v2 cost $89 USD the engine expansion should be included as a free UPGRADE as well as Repaints

Its FF where talking about they even charge you for Repaints

Edited February 21, 20251 yr by jason74

4 hours ago, jason74 said:

for the price the 777v2 cost $89 USD the engine expansion should be included as a free UPGRADE as well as Repaints

Its FF where talking about they even charge you for Repaints

According to the developer:

"EE is a way to get extra engines and its a single purchase. Buy it once (or buy a pack which include the EE) and any future model in the family you buy will come with all possible engines (or all those that I have the energy to make)"

If I am reading this right, the engine that are made available will come to the aircraft including the sounds, all for the price of a single 3P sound pack which was discounted today. I think they are being generous considering you will get the engine for free after the initial purchase and sounds with all of the engine tuning that has to go with it.

As far as the liveries, I think you can find some free one's on the org. I am not sure of the difference with payware liveries unless they include so customize internal work specific to the airline.

I don't see the package as bad but the timing is bad, launching a paid addon without being out of beta is not very aesthetic.

8 hours ago, jason74 said:

for the price the 777v2 cost $89 USD the engine expansion should be included as a free UPGRADE as well as Repaints

Its FF where talking about they even charge you for Repaints

Here we go again...should they not be paid for their work? And how do you know what price-model allows them to live with the money they're making? What if people told you that you should earn half of what you do?

1 hour ago, Franz007 said:

Here we go again...should they not be paid for their work? And how do you know what price-model allows them to live with the money they're making? What if people told you that you should earn half of what you do?

Yep here we go again its $89 all it is the 200ER still the same model and $89 should be for the complete 200ER , I could understand if it was a different model like the 300ER.

If your more than happy to pay extra $15 for different engines and $12 for each livery pack each one only has a handful of repaints $84 in total for all the packs  that should be included on a $89 Plane good for you, your the fool getting ripped off $188 for the complete 200ER.

Somehow I don't think its worth that

 

Edited February 22, 20251 yr by jason74

3 hours ago, jason74 said:

and $89 should be for

Again, how do you calculate that? And you didn't answer how you would react if someone told you that "you should earn half of your salary because you are overpaid". Do you understand that a developper has to make enough money to pay his living? How did you calculate the spendings vs. income to come to that conclusion?

Price setting is complicated:

- too much, and only a few will buy it, and the developer will not get his earnings

- too cheap, and even with huge volumes, the developer will not get back what he spent

So this boils down to:

1. what is the expected cost of developing vs
2. the expected volume turnaround at a certain price level vs
3. what does your customer think is a fair price for the offered quality?

This is a difficult exercise, in any business.

1 hour ago, Franz007 said:

Again, how do you calculate that? And you didn't answer how you would react if someone told you that "you should earn half of your salary because you are overpaid". Do you understand that a developper has to make enough money to pay his living? How did you calculate the spendings vs. income to come to that conclusion?

If your the fool happy to pay that then that's your choice.  No single aircraft model that's not complete is worth that price.

Do you understand that the developer is making more than enough no other developer charges $89 for a add-on of a aircraft single variant that does not come with livery's  and engine options.

I think your a FF fan with tunnel vision that cant accept the truth

A product is only worth what customers are willing to Pay

Obviously your happy to pay what ever the price , that's good for you

Edited February 22, 20251 yr by jason74

8 minutes ago, jason74 said:

If your the fool happy to pay that then that's your choice.  No single aircraft model that's not complete is worth that price.

A product is only worth what customers are willing to Pay

Obviously your happy to pay what ever the price , thats good for you

No addon ever (EVER!) has been what you call "complete". In any sim. So expecting the devs to deliver you all your extensions you wish for free is an illusion. I would pay way more for such an aircraft, because it's worth it. You are free to decide not to purchase it. many customers will get it. But to claim out of nothing things like "this should be XX$" just because you decide it, is beyond ridiculous and makes zero sense as long as you don't even know how their cost-model works. If you are that broke, so don't purchase it. I haven't any issue with that.

The fact the you can not enter the forecast winds into the FMC for an accurate TOD calculation is a show stopper for me. This feature is a fundamental requirement. 

 

 

Purchased and a big fan of these 777 engine sounds and tones on my recording studio setup. Nothing comes close.

I only fly the 777 now as I`m so impressed with the sound immersion.

25 minutes ago, Recognition said:

Purchased and a big fan of these 777 engine sounds and tones on my recording studio setup. Nothing comes close.

I only fly the 777 now as I`m so impressed with the sound immersion.

Have they implemented the full vnav yet?

VNAV is still being worked on and therefore can certainly be buggy at times. Generally very usable though.  I agree with the above comment on sounds. The sounds in this addon (the original and now the engine expansion) are phenomenal in my opinion.